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ashton007
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[WP] Grace buffs.

Post#1 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:29 pm

Before I attempt a proposal for this, I was wondering if anyone else has some good ideas. Anyone with a pair of eyes can see that Sacrifice DoK out performs Grace WP by leagues... Sacrifice DoK is better in every aspect when compared to its WP counter part. What i want out of this is for WP to perform at least AS GOOD as the sacrifice DoK i am not trying to get the WP into an overpowered state by any means... I'm just wanting it to have some viability without having to be rr80, just to compete with a rr45 DoK. If you guys have any thoughts, opinions, or ideas on how we can buff the grace WP up to par without it becoming OP please do share because the spec really does deserve some love.

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ashton007
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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#2 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:24 am

No ones has any ideas?

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peterthepan3
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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#3 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:03 am

Grace WP outperforms Sacrifice DOK for melee healing. It needs some mobility imo, but it functions pretty well for small scale atm.
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ashton007
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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#4 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:22 am

Afaik the only thing that makes the healing better is sigmars shield. But look at our laughable damage in comparison... Even our healdebuff is trash.

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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#5 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:37 am

If there was a way to implement it then I'd have made WP's considered as dual wielding whenever having a 2 hander equipped. That sole change would put them on nearly equal footing as DoK.

I doubt its doable though.

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Athergic
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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#6 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:59 am

ashton007 wrote:Afaik the only thing that makes the healing better is sigmars shield. But look at our laughable damage in comparison... Even our healdebuff is trash.
Grace is melee healing, and the Life tap abilities like the channel and radiance/transfer have the same base damage between the classes. With similar strength they should be healing around the same, but it looks like sigmars shield is, under certain situations better the downside being you have to be in melee range to use it.

also the heal debuff is not in grace tree.
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ashton007
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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#7 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:05 am

Well thats part of the problem... They have very similar healing but you can see a clear difference between their damages. It doesnt help that order lacks melee other than WL which dont exactly push the front lines... DoK is superior and even has more meat shields to help push. Any way you look at it DoK is at an advantage, most specifically dps.

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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#8 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:20 pm

You want to be dpsing or melee healing? Cuz by the sound of it you clearly want both in the same tree.
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ashton007
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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#9 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:15 pm

No i want them balanced... Why does DoK get the best of both worlds?

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peterthepan3
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Re: [WP] Grace buffs.

Post#10 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:23 pm

DPS DOK is slightly better than the DPS WP due to having more AoE cleave, a much more potent HD that doesn't require a GCD and can be AoE, dual wield for better sustained and 2 x damage covenants. DPS WP does slightly higher burst, but is pretty bad compared to the DOK.

Melee healing, however, is different ball game, and the WP is better at this role.
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