Another question... does anybody know what the softcap is for resists at level 40? Exact numbers if possible; ballparking is fine too.
And what is the highest resist debuff either realm can achieve? I understand Order can double resist spirit debuff with SM. Are there others? Can Destruction do the same?
Whether single or double debuff, does anybody know the exact value for those debuffs?
Your input is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Resists
I think its something like 40% to softcap, which IIRC is about 700 in raw resistance stat. Then again my memory might be wrong.
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They soft-cap at 35-40% reduction, which at r40 is between 600-700 total resists if I recall correctly.
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Interesting. Does anybody have any information on debuffs?
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
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Chosen:
0 pts in discord = -118 Resist (all)
13 pts in discord = - 179 Resist (all)
15 pts in discord = -188 Resist (all) via discordant instability (aura)
BO:
13 pts in Boss -359 corp (waaagh)
Shaman:
13 pts in Mork: -330 elemental via puddle
Zealot:
11 points in Dark Rites: -340 corp (sweeping disgorgement)
as examples.
0 pts in discord = -118 Resist (all)
13 pts in discord = - 179 Resist (all)
15 pts in discord = -188 Resist (all) via discordant instability (aura)
BO:
13 pts in Boss -359 corp (waaagh)
Shaman:
13 pts in Mork: -330 elemental via puddle
Zealot:
11 points in Dark Rites: -340 corp (sweeping disgorgement)
as examples.
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SM have to stacking debuffs, depends on build, but i guess it's about 500-600 in summary for proper WW bot.
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Yep - Ether Dance is in Khaine tree, and Heaven's Blade is in Hoeth tree. So ultimately a WW bot running HB will have a higher debuff than an SM with ED.
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Re: Resists
Resistance softcap is 680 for 40% reduction but you can easily get WAY higher if desired.
15 point spec's pushes the resistances up on abilities and the debuff's.
Max ability buff is 378 from aura's/da greenest
Most Max ability debuff is 378 on most debuff's if not all. Exception is knight/chosen aura's. They got nerfed awhile ago to 188 debuff. They used to be 378 debuff also.
Strippable ability buff's are less 252 ish this includes shaman/am/runie/zealot resist buffs.
The exception which I think RoR sneak/ghost changed was wrath of hoeth + heaven's blade stacking. Did RoR take away these things stacking? Confirmation?
Wrath of hoeth 378 debuff spirit
Heaven's blade 252 all resistance debuff.
Now this is only ability stuff. The game doesn't stop at ability stuff.
Morale buff's the big ones/maybe only ones is group orientated which is mountain spirit, 1001 dark blessings (both semi useless in it's current state due to shortened duration, RoR morale gain rates), and sprout carapace. All of those morale's group buff resistance by 504 which stacks with ability resistance buff's.
So Zealots get a single target m1 tzeentch's talon, morale 504 debuff which stacks with ability debuff's.
This provides a total of morale 504 + ability 378 resistance debuff = total resistance debuff of 882
Order doesn't have this besides the exception of the Hoeth SM (Wrath of hoeth 378 + Heaven's blade 252 = 630 Specifically spirit resistance debuff.
Destro get's higher debuff's but they are spending precious morale.
To wrap this up, if your using all the tool's you have available you can stack a specific resist type quite a bit or 2 resist types.
You have (Tali slots + set gear bonuses + ability buff + Morale buff + regular gear + ... racial resist tactic) + banner's 15% additional to a specific resist type. Banner's are not available on RoR currently.
You can push your resistances up to 1500+ on this server which roughly equal's 60% reduction this also allow's for you to mitigate most group comp debuff's of 378 easily. On AoR you were able to push resistances higher because of banner's.
RoR newer gear set's don't include the specific resist type set gear bonuses. AoR did have specific resistance type set gear bonuses.
15 point spec's pushes the resistances up on abilities and the debuff's.
Max ability buff is 378 from aura's/da greenest
Most Max ability debuff is 378 on most debuff's if not all. Exception is knight/chosen aura's. They got nerfed awhile ago to 188 debuff. They used to be 378 debuff also.
Strippable ability buff's are less 252 ish this includes shaman/am/runie/zealot resist buffs.
The exception which I think RoR sneak/ghost changed was wrath of hoeth + heaven's blade stacking. Did RoR take away these things stacking? Confirmation?
Wrath of hoeth 378 debuff spirit
Heaven's blade 252 all resistance debuff.
Now this is only ability stuff. The game doesn't stop at ability stuff.
Morale buff's the big ones/maybe only ones is group orientated which is mountain spirit, 1001 dark blessings (both semi useless in it's current state due to shortened duration, RoR morale gain rates), and sprout carapace. All of those morale's group buff resistance by 504 which stacks with ability resistance buff's.
So Zealots get a single target m1 tzeentch's talon, morale 504 debuff which stacks with ability debuff's.
This provides a total of morale 504 + ability 378 resistance debuff = total resistance debuff of 882
Order doesn't have this besides the exception of the Hoeth SM (Wrath of hoeth 378 + Heaven's blade 252 = 630 Specifically spirit resistance debuff.
Destro get's higher debuff's but they are spending precious morale.
To wrap this up, if your using all the tool's you have available you can stack a specific resist type quite a bit or 2 resist types.
You have (Tali slots + set gear bonuses + ability buff + Morale buff + regular gear + ... racial resist tactic) + banner's 15% additional to a specific resist type. Banner's are not available on RoR currently.
You can push your resistances up to 1500+ on this server which roughly equal's 60% reduction this also allow's for you to mitigate most group comp debuff's of 378 easily. On AoR you were able to push resistances higher because of banner's.
RoR newer gear set's don't include the specific resist type set gear bonuses. AoR did have specific resistance type set gear bonuses.
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Confirmed SM no longer stacks, changed a few weeks ago, not included in patch notes.
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