Playing WL is like bullying

[Reesh]

1. Game is not balanced around 1v1/duels.
2. If it would be, classes with high 1v1 potential like we, wh, sh, regen tanks, melee doks/wp etc, would be nerfed to oblivion.
3. Groupwise - recognize the spec by watching which self buff the wl is running, kill the pet. Then guardian wl has literally nothing.
4. If you go into rvr solo trying to rofl stomp other soloers and dying to them in the process, you get what you deserve for not grouping up with at least one good pocket healer.

[Acidic]

Have to go with this.
Leveling a WL to show in video now how effective a WL can be in wb as assasination of healers. Typically a WL can get in and out Sufficient to take out key healers.

Not rocket science to focus healers and destroy enemies ability to heal.

[Manatikik]

Providing unbiased proof from a WL player that mains the class is a rather difficult task. Infact, I don't think you ever gonna get it coz noone wants their main class nerfed. To ask players to spend 100 hours to lvl up a WL and kit them out just to provide evidence of a class they wanna reballanced is also way to much to ask from the playerbase.

Theres been tons of complaints about WL, everytime it's brought up the thread gets locked, so there is no chance of even adressing it. Even if people discussing it in general/off topic chat in game it gets shut down.

I don't see many counter arguments to why the class is not busted from the team eather. If the class wasn't busted it would just as easy to provide arguments of why it's not busted and shut down the rumours.

Main reason is that there is no real point to "busting" the class because there isn't an issue with Guardian at all outside of a solo/duo fight balance which had been addresses tons of times the devs do NOT balance around. Guardian is worthless in 6v6 (same amount of burst but on a 30s rotation instead of a 10s one) and WL in WB play is laughable to say it's OP.

Though to say Guardian WL isn't ridiculous in 1v1 currently is just flat out wrong; they're obviously top dog in super small fights. But my response to that is one class will always be the best 1v1 class so why does it matter which class it is? Game isn't built not balanced around it so wasting time or energy getting upset about it is useless - or you can build around beating it for fun (like Krima has done in the past successfully).

[peterthepan3]

so a glass cannon magus died to the highest burst class in game.

maybe next time spec for 1v1 on magus and laugh at wl?

[criollo]

#altharion

[Panzerkasper]

WL is balanced guys. There are enough negatives to the class to justify its power. Look at this list :O

- No inc heal debuff
- No out heal debuff in Guardian/Hunter spec
- Horrible AP issues with no AP regen abilities
- No stealth
- No range attacks
- No heavy armour
- No group heal or useful HoTs
- The detaunt only lasts for 5 seconds WTF!?
- Awful DOTs
- No single target punt
- No SL "rampage" like ability. Its super annoying when cull the weak gets parried

Taking a class into vacuum and trying to argue with it is never gonna work. Try again

[Nekkma]

Main reason is that there is no real point to "busting" the class because there isn't an issue with Guardian at all outside of a solo/duo fight balance which had been addresses tons of times the devs do NOT balance around. Guardian is worthless in 6v6 (same amount of burst but on a 30s rotation instead of a 10s one) and WL in WB play is laughable to say it's OP.

Though to say Guardian WL isn't ridiculous in 1v1 currently is just flat out wrong; they're obviously top dog in super small fights. But my response to that is one class will always be the best 1v1 class so why does it matter which class it is? Game isn't built not balanced around it so wasting time or energy getting upset about it is useless - or you can build around beating it for fun (like Krima has done in the past successfully).

Guardian was made as a 1v1 monster. Not striving for complete balance in small scale is fine. Breaking balance completely is not. Additionially, as guardian is "worthless in 6v6" and obviously in wb scale, there is no reason what so ever to not adjust guardian as it currently just functions as a completely unbalanced small scale specc.

[altharion1]

How about leaving guardian as it is and buffing the Hunter/Axeman spec to encourage more people to use it, instead of guardian?

When using Hunter/Axeman I would like to see the cooldown from pounce removed, ability AP costs reduced by 50% and maybe Primal Fury should increase damage by 100% because it is limited to attacks from sides and back onlyu, unlike the mara.

[Arelion]

How about leaving guardian as it is and buffing the Hunter/Axeman spec to encourage more people to use it, instead of guardian?

When using Hunter/Axeman I would like to see the cooldown from pounce removed, ability AP costs reduced by 50% and maybe Primal Fury should increase damage by 100% because it is limited to attacks from sides and back onlyu, unlike the mara.

you troll as bad as you play

[daniilpb]

so a glass cannon magus died to the highest burst class in game.

maybe next time spec for 1v1 on magus and laugh at wl?

What else will you ask them to do?
Use their keyboards? Turn on their monitors? USE BRAINS???
How ruthless you can be...