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Cimba
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Re: Great job

Post#111 » Sat May 06, 2017 6:48 pm

This thread reads like thriller. GM's blackmailing members of the community [1] to keep their server clean of flith [2] (great choice of words btw). To justifing double standards because they're statistically insignificant [3].

And **** tons of accustions. They're the best. Especially in this vaccuum of anything that could be called evidence. Feels like one of the old balance threads. Both sides accusing each other without providing any data.

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Re: Great job

Post#112 » Sat May 06, 2017 7:03 pm

Cimba wrote:This thread reads like thriller. GM's blackmailing members of the community [1] to keep their server clean of flith [2] (great choice of words btw). To justifing double standards because they're statistically insignificant [3].

And **** tons of accustions. They're the best. Especially in this vaccuum of anything that could be called evidence. Feels like one of the old balance threads. Both sides accusing each other without providing any data.
1. Major complaint they can't keep their fansite clean? No staff to do so. We offered staff as a potential solution. They offered... to do more of the same.
2. You don't need to go far to understand the foul mouthed juveniles that are rampant in most online games.
3. We don't invade privacy, people report harassment. What kind of trash talk you keep in the confines of your guild/alliance/friends, we really don't care much about. Same with private groups on the internet. Our interest only lies in protecting our reputation in public sectors where there's a reasonable interest.

Evidence, in this sort of case, would involve personal data that needs to be scrubbed from 5 pages of reports in order to publish it. When I'm still looking for a favorable outcome, putting in that work isn't appealing, and it's never been a guarantee that we would do so. This isn't a court where you get a lawyer. It's a game. I check and make sure things are in order, then proceed. People don't get banned for no reason at all, and when they do (very rarely) we own up to it and release them of any punishment.

What more can you really ask for?
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Re: Great job

Post#113 » Sat May 06, 2017 7:12 pm

Noergl wrote:I didnt wanted to get involved into this upbuilding drama, i dont have the facts, i cant read russian, im (luckily) not a dev who has to draw a line (and seemingly has to justify his decision all the time (why, by the way!))... but as everybody seemingly claims to be entitled to state his opinions here i also feel the strong urge to just state my personal obeservation about the "hateful, revengeful, biased,aso..." GM Alena:

In all my time here i only have good memories of her. Nice, helpful, happy to chat and fight with (and against) her, never encountered any kind of unjust behaviour in any way whatsoever. I 100% trust her gm decisions. I 100% enjoy playing the game with her. I dont get the strong personal animosities against her.

As i said, i dont have the facts... but this starting and growing "witch-hunt" against Alena from my point of view i find disgusting and unjustified. If i had seemingly that strong kind of issues with her, i would personally contact her and try to work things out, like two adult persons sharing the same hobby, instead of standing on the marketplace (forum) and shouting: "look over there. A witch!"
Anyone remember Monty Python? https://youtu.be/zrzMhU_4m-g

Oh,one more thing: The "joke" argument. Try looking for the definition of the word itself... one among others is: "Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality" Gold selling and by that risking to stir up negative awareness and possible shutdown... i cant find anything amusing or trivial in that and i would take it very serious as a GM indeed!

For me it seems the staff here reached out to try to come to a mutual agreement... and runs head first into a wall of animosity and stubborneness. I applaud the loyality of the russian players to one amongst them, but at least try to sit down and work something out...
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Re: Great job

Post#114 » Sat May 06, 2017 7:40 pm

This thread is done now. Lets move on with our lives and wait for the next exciting installment of RoR Ban Appeals before starting another one please.

Great Job everyone.
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