Keep ranking?

[wargrimnir]

A lot of great changes were made, but they arnt happening as they once did.

Ranking / Door repair does seem somewhat off. Couple that with rubberbanding Lords and zones can get pretty stale. I know you guys are working on things!

The inactive draw timer should only happen if a door or the lord is under attack. Right now draw timer just stops once outer is down and this is whats causing it to drag out.
If a realm is actively keeping players off the door/lord, the draw timer should continue.
The draw timer was changed when order had both doors down, but could not get inside to kill the lord. They whined about it, so it was changed.
Technically the draw timer should have happened, because order could not get inside to hit lord.

The rate at wich BOs generate resources is painfully slow. Its very difficult to level the keep based on the rate resources is gained, unless a dominant force is in the zone. No more 5star locks.
The rate at which resources is lost is in the same state as generation, only it happens too quickly.

These are the things that are adding to zones taking forever again and becoming very stale. Increase BO resource generation, decrease BO resource loss. Change draw timer to only apply if door/lord is being hit.
This will help make things flow more smoothly once again.

Impatient little git.

How about you spend 3+ years learning C# and come back to show us how it's done. In the meantime, let the devs do their things without your popcorn posts.

Seriously, if you know C# to a degree you would be hired for a job, put in an application...

[CptPiggy]

can some1 explain me what happend yday in reikland was playing from 7am till 8 pm so 11h I know u will say no life but I had 2 major brakes 1 for 2h sleep and second 1h visit to my parents so total of 8h and nobody took the keep and zone locked after 8 pm what happend?

[Nekkma]

Seemed a bit borked. When it finally locked there was no bag roll or tick (for destro at least). Destro zoned to praag and stood around wondering where all order had gone and then 45 min later order killed keep lord in reikland so seems it did not lock for them or something.

[Hargrim]

A lot of great changes were made, but they arnt happening as they once did.

Ranking / Door repair does seem somewhat off. Couple that with rubberbanding Lords and zones can get pretty stale. I know you guys are working on things!

The inactive draw timer should only happen if a door or the lord is under attack. Right now draw timer just stops once outer is down and this is whats causing it to drag out.
If a realm is actively keeping players off the door/lord, the draw timer should continue.
The draw timer was changed when order had both doors down, but could not get inside to kill the lord. They whined about it, so it was changed.
Technically the draw timer should have happened, because order could not get inside to hit lord.

The rate at wich BOs generate resources is painfully slow. Its very difficult to level the keep based on the rate resources is gained, unless a dominant force is in the zone. No more 5star locks.
The rate at which resources is lost is in the same state as generation, only it happens too quickly.

These are the things that are adding to zones taking forever again and becoming very stale. Increase BO resource generation, decrease BO resource loss. Change draw timer to only apply if door/lord is being hit.
This will help make things flow more smoothly once again.

All is dandy, except what happen when inner doors are down and lord was not yet hit? Or attackers wiped at lord and we are past draw time - instant draw?

Add another layers of complexity to accomplish exactly what? More complains and more people not understanding what is going on?

[Raggaz]

How about you spend 3+ years learning C# and come back to show us how it's done. In the meantime, let the devs do their things without your popcorn posts.

Seriously, if you know C# to a degree you would be hired for a job, put in an application...

I wasnt aware of this. I will get to work.

All is dandy, except what happen when inner doors are down and lord was not yet hit? Or attackers wiped at lord and we are past draw time - instant draw?

Add another layers of complexity to accomplish exactly what? More complains and more people not understanding what is going on?

Maybe put like 15 min delay on draw timer once a door/lord is hit/destroyed. Or put some kinda timer on keep not staying in "attacked" state so draw timer can continue.

Yes. It sucks there has to be a lot of rules people forget about or dont know.
The changes made so far have been good. But now its just, like they dont apply? People dont even bother holding BOs anymore except to spawn a ram, or repair a door.
Then it becomes whoever gets tired enough to give up..

All I did was suggest BO resource gains being increased so it doesnt take 30+ mins to gain a rank with 3+ BOs held and if those BOs are lost, within 2minutes ALL the progress in the past 30+ mins is gone!
People just run around on BOs zerging and dont even care about the system in place anymore.
Which really bothers me because the new system is good.

I remember when 5star locks were common, now you dont even see a 4star. So something a long the way had to of changed.
A ton of features were added to compensate for this and that and this and that. And now those features arnt even seen anymore.
Its just rank keep to 1/2 stars, get ram. Wait till one side gives up.
Wheres the emphasis on BOs repairing door? Making lord stronger? 5star locking.
Getting a keep to rank 3 to block postern usage. There are probably things Im forgetting. And most of them have to do with BOs and getting the BOs to rank a keep is a nightmare.

[Hargrim]

Spoiler:

How about you spend 3+ years learning C# and come back to show us how it's done. In the meantime, let the devs do their things without your popcorn posts.

Seriously, if you know C# to a degree you would be hired for a job, put in an application...

I wasnt aware of this. I will get to work.

All is dandy, except what happen when inner doors are down and lord was not yet hit? Or attackers wiped at lord and we are past draw time - instant draw?

Add another layers of complexity to accomplish exactly what? More complains and more people not understanding what is going on?

Maybe put like 15 min delay on draw timer once a door/lord is hit/destroyed. Or put some kinda timer on keep not staying in "attacked" state so draw timer can continue.

Yes. It sucks there has to be a lot of rules people forget about or dont know.
The changes made so far have been good. But now its just, like they dont apply? People dont even bother holding BOs anymore except to spawn a ram, or repair a door.
Then it becomes whoever gets tired enough to give up..

All I did was suggest BO resource gains being increased so it doesnt take 30+ mins to gain a rank with 3+ BOs held and if those BOs are lost, within 2minutes ALL the progress in the past 30+ mins is gone!
People just run around on BOs zerging and dont even care about the system in place anymore.
Which really bothers me because the new system is good.

I remember when 5star locks were common, now you dont even see a 4star. So something a long the way had to of changed.
A ton of features were added to compensate for this and that and this and that. And now those features arnt even seen anymore.
Its just rank keep to 1/2 stars, get ram. Wait till one side gives up.
Wheres the emphasis on BOs repairing door? Making lord stronger? 5star locking.
Getting a keep to rank 3 to block postern usage. There are probably things Im forgetting. And most of them have to do with BOs and getting the BOs to rank a keep is a nightmare.

Right, but the real issue here seem to be slow keep ranking, not draw timer not being applied when doors are down.

[Tesq]

I have to agree it is way too slow , it is so slow 1 week ago i tried make destru rank keep up and it gone as follow:

-we had rank 3
- borderline aao (between 0- 20-even 60...)
- we didnt managed to rank more than what it looked like rank 3.2
-we where hold min 3 flag all the time and even 4 at times.

Imo portal supply consume should be removed and a cap per x sec to portals use should be put similar to have 1/8 of resurce use.
Underdog faction is at disadvantahe with this and the one trying ranking up is disrupted by intentional per se solo woulf gankers. Probably even also unintentionaly by ppl which do not understand english and dont kniw and cant understand what we write im region.


Then the rank consumption is too fast you either put a very low consumption with a slow rank up ( force ppl leave keep camping) or a fast consumption with a very fast rank up ( if wanna have a very viable alternative system to the take keep one.

Also side with aao should rank up way faster ( esponentyally in this case, not proportionally).

For last rank up tick should be spread bettwr over time and be more frequent while bar consume should be more focus in tick after long period.
(Force more continuous attention on flags while it wont change over time supply bar gain/consume)

Test these 4 suggestions in row 1 by 1 could make it less tedious and working better imo. ( Well 4th one is more like a qol change).