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wildwindblows
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2h ? 2 wield ?

Post#1 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:10 pm

Hi,

What's the difference between 2h and 2 wield. Which one is the best damage?

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shaggyboomboom
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Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Post#2 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:11 pm

2h = 10% block strikethru, higher but slower AA dmg
2x1h = 10% parry, faster, but slight lower AA dmg
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peterthepan3
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Post#3 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:32 pm

Weren't 2h sledges given 10% parry strikethrough recently? Could be wrong.
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Post#4 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:03 pm

Just for WP, IIRC, but yeah.
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Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Post#5 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:10 pm

I dunno but it feels like they need help. Even pumping full Parry Renown my poor scrubby 2H BO doesn't seem to Parry for junk. Meanwhile DW DPS Parry me for days :(

I don't know if 2H has ever properly done the "chunkier" hits over DW, I've never been at the top end of the gear spectrum even in live but I always felt like the damage between the two wasn't as big of a difference as it should have been, especially given the slow AA.
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Post#6 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:28 pm

Full renown parry is only 18% chance to parry IIRC. BO doesnt have a parry self buff like SM, so they kinda doomed to have low avoidance in 2h does.

10% parry strikethrough is only for 2h wp, yeah.
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Post#7 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:29 pm

burst vs sustain.
if i can stay in melee long time, i will go DW.
if i contact briefly in melee, i will go 2h and put burst dmg in short time.
also u can surprise attack with spike dmg at 30% hp, but parry/block is big loss.
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Dreadspectre
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Re: 2h ? 2 wield ?

Post#8 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:29 pm

GodlessCrom wrote:Full renown parry is only 18% chance to parry IIRC. BO doesnt have a parry self buff like SM, so they kinda doomed to have low avoidance in 2h does.

10% parry strikethrough is only for 2h wp, yeah.
...why only WP? Why does this make any sense? And then we wonder why people say stuff like "Order bias" lol. Clearly this is a tiny change that doesn't really effect much but still...why only one class?
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Post#9 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:32 pm

I cant remember. May have been a buff to melee healing, I think? Order bias stuff is garbage, devs play both sides in game. Black guard just got buffed, etc.
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Post#10 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:41 pm

anarchypark wrote:burst vs sustain.
if i can stay in melee long time, i will go DW.
if i contact briefly in melee, i will go 2h and put burst dmg in short time.
also u can surprise attack with spike dmg at 30% hp, but parry/block is big loss.
Ofc this dosnt really hold up if you not an mdps


You get much more mileage using DW in terms of faster aa and free parry buff
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