Nobody cares about Ch22 PQ...

[peterthepan3]

Well spoken by Wam. Why should everything be watered down to facilitate to people who don't want a challenge.

I empathise with jinxy somewhat, mind, but hopefully when the other 2 PQs are introduced, people feel more inclined to try them out. If not, meh - there's always flags in RvR to camp.

[Hargrim]

Guys, you have to understand that this is endgame content, and you're playing an mmo so it has to feel grindy. The devs put so much work into these PQs, so you should appreciate that, even if you run it for the 200th time, and get another duplicate item.

Embrace the Grind.

Spoken like a true pve lover. :^)

Absolutely. It's beautiful game design, almost like the Keep Lords. It has this epic feel to it, that you actually achieved something. What's not to love?

If you don't like it here go and play on any other of the WAR servers, or even other game instead of wasting electricity on the thing that's not finished or finalized. You don't like the way how development is done here? See above, plenty of other servers or games.

[Jinxypie]

Challenge is fine if you have enough ppl willing to go thru it. I had my dok parked there for 2weeks checking everyday if theres somebody to join. No luck. So yeah maybe i will try to post in event section to get someone hook up that way. Ingame LFM just wont cut it atm.

Sure there was lot of effort put in, so it will be shame if all that work get just burried by time. Tier merge turns out rly nicely, same with beastlords or ruin farm. Theres LFM for them everyday. So fingers crossed devs figure out how to make more ppl do those PQs as well.

Peace

[Grunbag]

Wait for the 4 last chap 22 PQ and then rewards / bags and other will be fixed

[Jinxypie]

2 weeks?

[Nekkma]

People do not bother with it because the small chance for a reward (in some cases not even that good of a reward) even when succeding is to low, not because it is difficult.

On live, plenty of people still showed up for Collosus even tho it often took forever (at least if felt like it) because LotD lock shenanigans, group wiping on last boss etc. I do not really have any metric but at the beginning it felt like it failed most of the time. In the later times, with better gear and rr, it still failed regularly. People still showed up tho and I think it was because: A) the reward was good and B) the reward was attainable seeing as you only needed 1-2 gold bags (or whatever the color was on the weapon bags) and 2 bags for talis. Everybody could join in because you could get lucky and win the lottery for a good bag and get an upgrade.

Gathering a full set from chapter 22 PQs without any currency or ability to pick the piece you want/need the Onslaught set is in practice not attainable for the vast majority of the population regardless of what the difficulty level of the PQ is.

[adamthelc]

I think most of the people in this thread want to do it, just can't get the people.

I think a lot of the issue is small playerbase and how far removed from anything else these PQs are. You could make the rewards better/easier than what you get in PvP to attract people. But that wouldn't be a good option because then people would complain about the best gear coming from PvE in a PvP game.

LotD is an interesting comparison. It was an area that mixed PvE and PvP. You could be doing PvE there and not totally remove yourself from PvP.

If these PQs could be right next to the Praag WC or something, more people would probably show up. Im sure that not possible though.

I am not trying to poo poo on the PQs, quite the opposite. People probably put a lot of time into making the PQs happen and they are pretty decent. Would be nice if more people have them the attention they deserve.

But like they have said, there is more to come. So all of this might be a little premature.

[Ramasee]

Our guild spent one orvr warband night to do the PQ. I think the difficulty is in a good spot and I hope that it doesn't get nerfed. I have done it successfully with PuGs as well (I have twelve macros set up to tell people how to PvE lol). I've also failed alot with pugs.

The onslaught gear is good for bomb BWs, Warrior Priests, and 2 set bonus is great for orvr tanks. Set is stacked with wounds for any other classes looking for piecemeal wounds bonuses.

My guild afaik is not going to do it again for a bit. 24 people have to give up 30-50min of time (with no breaks) in order for 2 people to get 1 random piece, while the other 22 people obtain nothing. So we've decided to test each PQ as it comes out to give feedback and for the initial challenge. Won't really farm it until they add meaningful participation prizes, but hey that's their end game plan.

To the devs: adding 2 or 3 min to stage 2 would go along way towards letting people go to the bathroom and not fail a pq for the warband *glares at particular guildmates*

[catholicism198]

Easy conquerer gear? lol. I stopped reading after that. Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.
There's nothing easy about 6+ hour zone fights that only grant a slight chance at getting a gold bag. Maybe it was easy-ish before they added the r40/rr41 requirement, but now there's nothing "easy" about it.

[ragafury]

may read the predecessor thread. complaining about loot is invalid kinda.

if you want stuff faster to be developed go to norks thread, follow the instructions and apply for tester.

otherwhise I think devs said everything and I basically share wam and peters opinion; it's called hard PQ for a reason.