Improving the 2H blackguard playstyle

[War]

Yes, its about CHOICE and TRADEOFF and the class isnt remotely bad in 2 hander spec, just crybabies want everything but the thing is they dont really want to give anything up to get it, or rather they wont want to give up anything of actual value to them PERSONALLY to get it which is a joke. Virtually every "suggestion" here has been about giving up very little for something much better and its comical.

It's already been discussed that the choice isn't worth the sacrifice. There is not enough incentive and worth to use a 2h. The mirror class doesn't have to give up it's KD and gains GWM. It doesn't make sense that the BG does have to give it up. It's bad balance.

Just because a class isnt necessarily popular doesnt make it bad, some classes are easier than others, thats easier, not better. I know 2 hander blackguards on live who would have destroyed you without blinking all without this imaginary 2 hander KD that the crybabies are clamoring for.

No 2h blackguard would have a chance against the superior mirror (IB ofc), provided equal skill level. My dad can beat up your dad. Hurr durr I love anecdotes and baseless assumptions.

The devs on live spent YEARS building the classes and they all operate within very small parameters of each other which given that they are not, and should not be clones is pretty damned miraculous, and while small tweaks and small changes should be made gaining a class changing ability like a KD on a 2 hander when one wasnt present prior is comical and frankly idiotic because it will set a precedent of giving stupid people what they THINK they want and then the poor overworked devs on this produce will have nothing but reams of begging and crying to go through. Carrie did this with her massively simple design on the lakes, free rr and gear and it was excremental

Fixing balance mistakes is hardly idiotic. Bitching and moaning about valid concerns being discussed and calling those involved in said discussion, "crybabies" and "stupid people" is hilariously ironic.

But I get that you just want everything, you are just a product of society today but you should be careful of what you wish for

I just want what is best for the balance of the game and prosperity for the 2h BG. I should be careful for wishing for a 2h KD on a video game? Hahaha, get off your high horse, princess.

[Mez]

I know 2 hander blackguards on live who would have destroyed you without blinking all without this imaginary 2 hander KD that the crybabies are clamoring for.

1v1 doesnt matter brah.

There a 1v1's in scenarios brother man. Quite often in the middle of group verse group. Just cause a few group heals are caught by one player or the other, doesn't mean there isn't significant personal battles being fought. Anyone who likes hockey understands, its about winning races, winning small fights on your own, that contribute to a larger win.

How often do you win a tough fought 1v1 in a nordenwatch, and only then you can add your strength to a stalemate fight at a banner, that can go your team's way.

You guys are funny with your balance discussions. The truth is the game is balanced exactly around what it was designed for. That is 12 v 12 scenarios, and even larger scale PvP in RvR.

[Jaycub]

I know 2 hander blackguards on live who would have destroyed you without blinking all without this imaginary 2 hander KD that the crybabies are clamoring for.

1v1 doesnt matter brah.

There a 1v1's in scenarios brother man. Quite often in the middle of group verse group. Just cause a few group heals are caught by one player or the other, doesn't mean there isn't significant personal battles being fought. Anyone who likes hockey understands, its about winning races, winning small fights on your own, that contribute to a larger win.

How often do you win a tough fought 1v1 in a nordenwatch, and only then you can add your strength to a stalemate fight at a banner, that can go your team's way.

You guys are funny with your balance discussions. The truth is the game is balanced exactly around what it was designed for. That is 12 v 12 scenarios, and even larger scale PvP in RvR.

1v1 my lvl 3 blackgaurd and see if that theory holds up in gayme

[Penril]

Hockey sucks

[Nishka]

I liked 2h bg and had no problem trading kd for damage... but the biggest issue I was experiencing was the luck of survivability. If you compare bg to kotbs or ib who can be pretty tanky even in dps (due to auras or selfbuffs) bg doesn't have any significant self buffs and the shield of rage bubble is pretty weak for it's kd.
So I propose increasing BG viability in 2h spec by... for example... doubling his Shield of Rage

[Coryphaus]

If you feel you need survive you can always spec like this

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bg; ... :;;0:0:0:0:

[War]

I liked 2h bg and had no problem trading kd for damage... but the biggest issue I was experiencing was the luck of survivability. If you compare bg to kotbs or ib who can be pretty tanky even in dps (due to auras or selfbuffs) bg doesn't have any significant self buffs and the shield of rage bubble is pretty weak for it's kd.
So I propose increasing BG viability in 2h spec by... for example... doubling his Shield of Rage

Or, you can actually...you know...fix the problem.

[Nishka]

If you feel you need survive you can always spec like this

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bg; ... :;;0:0:0:0:

no anti-detaunt tactic? no 30% free disrput? no choking furry?
Also, I don't think that 4 parries and BA (my favorite BG skill) alone are enough to increase bg's surv.
I'd prob go 2-3 for toughness less critical chance on self and parry. Which is still not enough...

[Karast]

I know people want a KD because IB has a great one. But does that mean IB are going to get access to a wounds debuff and AA speed tactic /toughness debuff / AP debuff / and the immunity to detaunt tactic?

BG's have some really good stuff. Yeah they don't got a good KD in a 2H spec but they got some nasty **** to make up for it.

The careers are not mirrored, the career mechanics are.

[Coryphaus]

You know if i had to choose between a tactic slot that give me aa haste and a core ability that gives me aa haste id take the latter

IB is about buffing allies, BG is an offensive foused class with buffs that are more selfish in nature hence why IB has toughness buff and BG has toughness debuff along with other offensive focused abilites like anti detuant

Furthermore IB 2h is much stronger and better for grp play than BG 2h

Weather you like it or not BG should have the ability to choose to spec into a kd while using a 2h just like every other tank in the game