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Endari
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Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Post#11 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:00 am

Demonito wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:39 am Sure is already disturbing, last version didn't have that malus
That's why I wrote "rework" as to be something brand new, a 15s SE regen stop would be silly ofc
Good good as 15 sec without SE regen would really suck, but I kinda get what they are trying with Drowning in Blood. A situational ability that you need to think about instead of just use in rotation, it sorta works and I fully expect dps DoKs to get a nerf in the upcoming dps rework. It pushed the dps DoK much closer to a full mdps, enough so it really needs a kd or disarm added.

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Alubert
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Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Post#12 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:06 am

Kind of reminds me of the saying “give a finger and they'll take your whole hand” :)
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hordak774
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Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Post#13 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:03 am

order have only 1 thing op right now its wl

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Demonito
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Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Post#14 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 7:12 pm

Endari wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:00 am
Demonito wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:39 am Sure is already disturbing, last version didn't have that malus
That's why I wrote "rework" as to be something brand new, a 15s SE regen stop would be silly ofc
Good good as 15 sec without SE regen would really suck, but I kinda get what they are trying with Drowning in Blood. A situational ability that you need to think about instead of just use in rotation, it sorta works and I fully expect dps DoKs to get a nerf in the upcoming dps rework. It pushed the dps DoK much closer to a full mdps, enough so it really needs a kd or disarm added.

Exactly
Drowning in Blood can now be used in two ways :
Easy mode where you simply use it for Wracking Agony or Sanguinary Extension if you are full of SE
Hardcore when you will spam it on CD, to combine with Essence Lash right after the buff ends
That rotation is better for your dps but way more annoying as you have to keep track on buff timer + your SE
In either way, having to cast that spell on 5s CD or before every Wracking Agony is really boring
Not sure if you want a nerf or add kd/disarm?

Alubert wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:06 am Kind of reminds me of the saying “give a finger and they'll take your whole hand” :)

"DiB" doesn't lower your CD anymore and only buff spells for their previous version
It's that new Arpen spell for both dok/wp that was a crazy boost out of nowhere
Lifetap new system is more an issue for shield spec
Dok is quite a real dps now, I only wish a rework of the spell being 5s CD
A normal CD buff or a toggle like choppa Hurtin'Time would be way more fun

hordak774 wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:03 am order have only 1 thing op right now its wl

WP seem as good as dok but Slayer could indeed get a boost

Endari
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Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Post#15 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 8:38 pm

I do not want any nerfs but you can see the writing on the walls about people bitching about how OP dps WP/DoK is now lol and both should get a disarm or KD.

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Kyouaku
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Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Post#16 » Mon Aug 18, 2025 7:38 am

Melee DoK is a worse Mura with no charge, pull, monster arm buff, 50% crit damage tactic, 20% extra crit chance tactic to go with always having 50% more crit damage, no 4 piece vic proc for 130 Weaponskill/TOughness beuff, no good sov set to mix with vic for good surviability.

It used to have a fat AOE spirit damage nuke, 50% heal debuff on crit, and nice melee healing to amke up for the lack of the normal DPS awesomeness. Right now it's job can be done better then a mura in SCs, and its miserable to paly in rvr because of it's lack of charge/utility.

the class was really good on live, let it be good again, give it also proper gearing otions. If a mura gets it, DoK should get it too.

If they want to keep DPS DoK a 'mura light', give it charge, make drowning in blood similar to its crit tactic at 50%, let it's DPS spammable be like muras where you dont need to hit in the back, and let it have it's old melee heals back so that will be what it gains for less damage still and no pull/worse tatics.

And once again, for the love of god, fix it's gear. No 4 piece vic WS bonus cripples it as much as the skill nerfs.

IMO, make it like it was on live, and fix the gear. Give it +1 of all sets to choose to buy over other classes so the shield spec the devs added to the game dont gimp it.

DPS DoK was balanced and really good on live, IDK why it got so gimped here. It had a unique roll it did super well

The super bad mobility and bad gear, plus the changes, ruin it IMO. A group would be much better off with a different DPS

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