Hello, I'll get straight to the point:
I am a former WH player on live, still have one on RoR + I'm playing a WL (31/30 atm). I really like the class, but can't help but thinking that it could use some dev work for its well known problems:
- pet: unreliable, u need to control it manually from passive, often goes for strange trajectories, doesn't scale with WL stats, Guardian tree is basically useless atm
- specs and trees: the only viabile option at 40 is the Hunter/Axeman till force opportunity and thin the herd, rest is probably garbage
- no incoming heal debuff, which places the WL at the lowest end of the mdps chain.
I believe the pounce nerf was alright, but I'd do something with the skill/trees to make the class more interesting and useful when tier4 hits. Please don't come over saying that in T2-3 WL is a monster, I perfectly know he is, but things will rapidly change at lvl 40
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So.. time to fix the WL?
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Re: So.. time to fix the WL?
Not time yet come T4 all classes will be looked at.
Incoming heal debuff is the big issue here you might face a damage reduction for having that added in. Lions are really rather bursty so balancing this is going to be tricky for the devs.
Incoming heal debuff is the big issue here you might face a damage reduction for having that added in. Lions are really rather bursty so balancing this is going to be tricky for the devs.
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Re: So.. time to fix the WL?
So tell me why should the WL get a skill (Incoming heal debuff) that he never had ?
Which was never planed for this class ?
He isnt the only class without iHD.
Next player wish stealth for Choppa ~_~
Or what is with Chaos-Barb ? His pull is useless (was on live-Server too) because its scale with int.
Which was never planed for this class ?
He isnt the only class without iHD.
Next player wish stealth for Choppa ~_~
Or what is with Chaos-Barb ? His pull is useless (was on live-Server too) because its scale with int.
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- magter3001
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Re: So.. time to fix the WL?
Heal debuff for pounce... It would be in the same tree as the armor debuff after all and would only need 6 points.
Imagine that or something of the sort.
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Imagine that or something of the sort.
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Re: So.. time to fix the WL?
Choppa is perfectly viaile in premades, while WL is tricky because of the lack of incoming HD. It's just a way (maybe the easiest, I don't know) to bring him on par with other mDPS (that's the comparison to be made, certainly not with other archetypes). Sure, maybe there are other ways to balance, but you get the point
Re: So.. time to fix the WL?
Nod or ...magter3001 wrote:Heal debuff for pounce... It would be in the same tree as the armor debuff after all and would only need 6 points.![]()
Imagine that or something of the sort.
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Move Stalker to 11pts (PVE tactic) and add an incoming heal debuff to Pack Assault
Making Threatening Distraction (PVE tactic) an AP-regen tactic at the same time would make sense
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- roadkillrobin
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Re: So.. time to fix the WL?
Just go Loner spec, with Pounce, Armourdebuff and AA Speed Haste. You can't give WÖ a healdebuff as they have insanse burst dmg, it would pretty much autokill any robe class and thats a really bad idea when the class have an abillity as Pounce aswell.kryss wrote:Hello, I'll get straight to the point:
I am a former WH player on live, still have one on RoR + I'm playing a WL (31/30 atm). I really like the class, but can't help but thinking that it could use some dev work for its well known problems:
- pet: unreliable, u need to control it manually from passive, often goes for strange trajectories, doesn't scale with WL stats, Guardian tree is basically useless atm
- specs and trees: the only viabile option at 40 is the Hunter/Axeman till force opportunity and thin the herd, rest is probably garbage
- no incoming heal debuff, which places the WL at the lowest end of the mdps chain.
I believe the pounce nerf was alright, but I'd do something with the skill/trees to make the class more interesting and useful when tier4 hits. Please don't come over saying that in T2-3 WL is a monster, I perfectly know he is, but things will rapidly change at lvl 40
Cheers

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Re: So.. time to fix the WL?
The pet should be an unattackable spirit, or should only die when It's master die, or should only have 5 seconds cooldown until you can call it again. It is **** and it was always ****. In any situation where more than one opponents are using AoE It gets killed almost instantly and since It will never follow you properly It's just useless.
The Guardian Path is complete garbage. The KD should be a normal skill, especially in T4 your pet is weak and the KD gets defended/blocked/parried way to many times. If I could make changes I'd fill the Guardian path with Wounds debuff, Heal debuff, etc debuffs, since WL does much less damage if you spec into that, at least It'd be a Marauder-like debuff-bot.
Outgoing Heal debuff is good as it is, you can pounce on enemy healers, apply it and move on.
The Guardian Path is complete garbage. The KD should be a normal skill, especially in T4 your pet is weak and the KD gets defended/blocked/parried way to many times. If I could make changes I'd fill the Guardian path with Wounds debuff, Heal debuff, etc debuffs, since WL does much less damage if you spec into that, at least It'd be a Marauder-like debuff-bot.
Outgoing Heal debuff is good as it is, you can pounce on enemy healers, apply it and move on.
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Re: So.. time to fix the WL?
Fix WL ??? the WL can kill everything atm he is an insane dps if well played on pemade or on solo !
The less thing who need to be fixed is the follow code for the pet and the pet cant follow a target when the WL is at 5000000000 km from the targets same for squig .
The less thing who need to be fixed is the follow code for the pet and the pet cant follow a target when the WL is at 5000000000 km from the targets same for squig .
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