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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#101 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:02 pm

@Euan
No you want to talk balance in a group oriented game while never playing in one urself.
I'm not telling you to play in one, but neither are you qualified to comment about balance then.

Well I stopped arguing with you because you were even too dumb to understand what I was saying. (In addition I'm tired of talking to people who have to use lol, rekt, xD etc. in every second sentence while having zero real arguments)
And as you might have noticed there are some other ppl with more brain than you (aka penril, azuzu)
who said the same about premade>gear/renown.

And maybe, just maybe it isn't wrong to have better players arguing balance.
Because you know, they understand the game better.

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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#102 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:04 pm

Euan wrote:
tomato wrote:Except I never see you running around in a group.
If you want to be taken seriously in disscusions like this, play the game how it's meant to be played.
I don't see how that has to do with anything. Again, you're telling me how I should be playing, lol. Obviously you should try to discredit me after being owned. Notice how you guys stopped replying after that? You guys always have so much to say, awww.Instead you guys would rather discuss with people who are insulting you/using weaker arguments, lol. Yeah, take those guys more seriously. XD


Me beating you in a 6v6 won't prove anything, I'm not actually sure why you guys think that's valid. A perfect example is you wanting to 6v6 Penril over the Black Guard vs Black Orc discussion. Instead of trying to 6v6 him you could try playing with his Black Guard as he's offered but you've refused. You would rather get your epeen off by stomping him and solving nothing. Where as if you played with him, it might change your mind or it might not. It might even change his mind, seeing Black Orc aside him. But again you won't because "we're better" is your best argument.
Regarding this. I have to say, they were right. Black Orcs and Swordmasters are the best tanks in the game atm.

This won't be the case in T4 though. But currently, daaaamn they are OP.

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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#103 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:16 pm

Penril wrote:
Euan wrote:
tomato wrote:Except I never see you running around in a group.
If you want to be taken seriously in disscusions like this, play the game how it's meant to be played.
I don't see how that has to do with anything. Again, you're telling me how I should be playing, lol. Obviously you should try to discredit me after being owned. Notice how you guys stopped replying after that? You guys always have so much to say, awww.Instead you guys would rather discuss with people who are insulting you/using weaker arguments, lol. Yeah, take those guys more seriously. XD


Me beating you in a 6v6 won't prove anything, I'm not actually sure why you guys think that's valid. A perfect example is you wanting to 6v6 Penril over the Black Guard vs Black Orc discussion. Instead of trying to 6v6 him you could try playing with his Black Guard as he's offered but you've refused. You would rather get your epeen off by stomping him and solving nothing. Where as if you played with him, it might change your mind or it might not. It might even change his mind, seeing Black Orc aside him. But again you won't because "we're better" is your best argument.
Regarding this. I have to say, they were right. Black Orcs and Swordmasters are the best tanks in the game atm.

This won't be the case in T4 though. But currently, daaaamn they are OP.
My point was they're being hypocritical about communication and helping others be better when they're trying to fight you. Constant taunting on forums and we're better arguments. LIke I said in my post it didn't necessarly have to change their minds, it could actually change yours.
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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#104 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:21 pm

tomato wrote: Thank you kind sir. I don't count pots, because in a well organized group you don't need stat pots. (rp/zealot can buff int/bal, wp/dok can buff armor, knight/chosen can buff lots of stats, sh/am can buff ressi, so most of the time pots are useless)


Great that you start insulting, so you can't be taken srs anymore anyway. :)
tomato wrote:
Well I stopped arguing with you because you were even too dumb to understand what I was saying.

And maybe, just maybe it isn't wrong to have better players arguing balance.
Because you know, they understand the game better.

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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#105 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:31 pm

There is a difference in you calling me a **** idiot out of nowhere,
and I'm telling him he obv. doesn't comprehend what I'm saying for the third time, so I won't bother to write it 3 more times. (The only answers I would get are like "lol" "rekt" "owned" and other stupid stuff.)

@Penril Great you found out.

Btw. 6vs6 is great fun, it's not about owning people it's to have some kind of competitive fight.
We enjoy a good fight, but it seems most people think premades are just there to farm poor solo players.
Which is a pretty silly assumption.

Still offering a friendly 6vs6 to any group, order or destru, we'd play with different setups aswell.

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Euan
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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#106 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:43 pm

tomato wrote:There is a difference in you calling me a **** idiot out of nowhere,
and I'm telling him he obv. doesn't comprehend what I'm saying for the third time, so I won't bother to write it 3 more times. (The only answers I would get are like "lol" "rekt" "owned" and other stupid stuff.)

@Penril Great you found out.

Btw. 6vs6 is great fun, it's not about owning people it's to have some kind of competitive fight.
We enjoy a good fight, but it seems most people think premades are just there to farm poor solo players.
Which is a pretty silly assumption.

Still offering a friendly 6vs6 to any group, order or destru, we'd play with different setups aswell.
I enjoy 6v6's myself but they are the rarest form of pvp in War, always has been. Favorite scenario is Eternal Citadel. I would love to 6v6 you guys but find a group = ehhhh. I solo mostly and I do join groups when the opportunity presents itself, even with the Russians who I don't understand xD. Anyways this thread got derailed so hard, I'll stop. I apologize if I offended you. :(
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Abolition
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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#107 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:45 pm

Euan wrote:
I enjoy 6v6's myself but they are the rarest form of pvp in War, always has been. Favorite scenario is Eternal Citadel. I would love to 6v6 you guys but find a group = ehhhh. I solo mostly and I do join groups when the opportunity presents itself, even with the Russians who I don't understand xD. Anyways this thread got derailed so hard, I'll stop. I apologize if I offended you. :(
[quote="Euan"]

Favorite scenario is Eternal Citadel.[/quote]


Get the **** out of my guild.
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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#108 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:18 pm

Abolition wrote:
Euan wrote:
I enjoy 6v6's myself but they are the rarest form of pvp in War, always has been. Favorite scenario is Eternal Citadel. I would love to 6v6 you guys but find a group = ehhhh. I solo mostly and I do join groups when the opportunity presents itself, even with the Russians who I don't understand xD. Anyways this thread got derailed so hard, I'll stop. I apologize if I offended you. :(
[quote="Euan"]

Favorite scenario is Eternal Citadel.


Get the **** out of my guild.[/quote]

But its so good T_T
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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#109 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:08 pm

lostintranslation wrote:Right now the Mrd and WL armor debuffs are removing as much armor as they would in T4. Enigma is using that more effectively than anyone else at this point. To be fair, it should probably scale.

If you really want competition run a different comp and the other groups will have a chance. But it seems to me that you're not really looking for that. You're only trying to further inflate your own egos. It's not very difficult to change your group composition, but you will be waiting a long time for any group to find a way to counter your setup without a numbers advantage.
Firstly the armordebuff is 1,12k now, it will be 1,6k in tier 4.
Secondly this is not the only reason that our ttk is so low.
Thirdly we are running in different setups. 1-3-2 being the one with the most fun so far.
The reason why we play our mains from time to time is that we just like those classes. *pouncepounce*
And REALLY? You want us to change our setup even though we run classes that are considered bad?
Sorry dude but we dont even care about any random that dies in 3s, we want a good fight and we get it sometimes when people try to fight instead of running preemptively.
Killing randoms in a sc is just sth we have to do to end it fast.
Well some special randoms we like to kill multiple times. :D :D :D
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Re: [Suggestion] Debuff for being afk in SC

Post#110 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:33 pm

Nanji wrote:
You want us to change our setup even though we run classes that are considered bad?
You lot are the ones calling everyone bad and claiming you have no competition so yea if you want a more challenging experience you are the ones who will have to change setup not complain for everyone else to change.
As for bad classes, i dont think running wl/slay/kotbs/sm/wp/wp is a bad setup or even replacing a wp for a rp, mdps for a bw or kotbs for an ib is a bad setup.
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