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Post#31 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:28 pm

Was one of my first petitions when i discovered this server, back when it was just 20 people online, sadly, devs cannot create new skills, else, i would post everyday about bringing divine strike and the dok equivalent back.

Nothing dissapointed me more in this game than fiding melee healing was not viable at t4 and i had to be a healbot, i just made another class and my wp was forever abandoned.

RIP "Torso Viril" wherever you are.

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Post#32 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:42 pm

Was divine strike the one that did an AOE heal every time you hit?
I remember looking for its equivalent on my DOK here on RoR and couldn't find it.
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Post#33 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:45 pm

bloodi wrote: "Torso Viril" .
Lol

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Post#34 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:57 pm

Abolition wrote:Was divine strike the one that did an AOE heal every time you hit?
I remember looking for its equivalent on my DOK here on RoR and couldn't find it.
Yes it was, it got removed when they added divine mend, effectively killing melee healing till level 30, where its alive till level 32.

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Post#35 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:30 pm

vedranivandija wrote:Image

u can shame and blame whatever u want
this picture says it all ( right click ,open image in new tab for bigger picture )
this is from ROR
my character name is Maximuss.check that dmg,even healing,killing blows,lvl ( compare with that witch hunter ) and survavibility .i didnt die once.We raped that scenario.
I used to play Wp on live aswell RR55

My main on ror is mara ,so i understand what pure dps class is ,
Wp on the other hand is healer/tank/suport dps which can change roles on the go .ultimate weapon !
Srsly, you brag about a lowbie PUG SC? Any decent premade would keep killing you in 2 seconds until you give up. :lol:
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Post#36 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:27 am

I agree. SC screenshots sometimes don't prove someone's point, especially in lower tiers and not against premades. If dps WP were so good once they have the right gear and all they would have figured as desirable dps group members for t4 premades, but correct me if I'm wrong, that wasn't the case on live. If I'm not very much mistaken, slayers were the mdps of choice, and even WLs and WHs were preferred over dps WPs. Smallscale against disprganized players? sure, dps WP can be awesome.

But this whole post, as I stated clearly at the beginning, was about MELEE healing, not dps, and I think that a healer that has to HIT people to heal and has no cc nor anti cc tools is a sad puppet that someone left lying on the ground and goes unnoticed.

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Post#37 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:51 am

All the time reading this thread that I started I have the impression that very very quickly people make a perhaps unconscioous transition from the concept of "healer" to the concept of "dps" via the "melee" idea, and begin to produce screenshots and stories about DBs, damage numbers, 1v1 ownage etc. I understand the rejection of proposed buffs to the class for fears of turning the WP into an OP mdps but, if you notice, none of the changes I proposed is aimed at increasing the WP's killing power. The DoK's ability to snare ranged has been mentioned, but it's out of place in my reasoning and I wasn't really asking for it. The suggestion of making sigmar's radiance into a 25% armor ignore skill like bg's or kotbs basic low level abilities wasn't meant to increase the WP's damage output but to boost his healing, as you can understand.

To sum up, I wasn't interested in the killing machine WP is NOT. I am talking about what the beautiful original idea for the class was and has always been but was never really implemented. I am talking life nor death here folks. I am talking about the melee HEALER.

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Post#38 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:36 am

I mained a Grace specced Warrior Priest from release till patch 1.4.0 (quit 2 days later).

Never had any problem playing one until the exponential power increase of certain classes, due to better items being available despite staying the same level (invader and above).

Imho the melee wp faces the same troubles the SM/BO are currently facing; not clear which role they should fill in a group.

This was during 1.3.8 cant speak for later patches, though I can see that sigmar' s radiance is a better group ability than divine strike.

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Post#39 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:21 am

The build absolutely requires the right gear to play which mainly does not exist in RoR. The other issue being no access to sigmars radiance. Both of these could/should change eventually. Trying to adjust a build in light of these issues seems like a bad idea.

I do believe the tree structure and skill stats need to be reworked. There are a lot of useless/under-powered abilities. Sigmar's radiance and the DoKs equivalent could also be dropped to the mid teens.

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Post#40 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:40 am

hell yeah

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