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Toldavf
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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#11 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:47 pm

At the moment you need only maybe 30% armour pen and have the rest in str. In t4 you wont stack strength at all its all weapon skill in tally slots.
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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#12 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:56 pm

Later game with armor stacking you need ws
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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#13 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:35 pm

tomato wrote:Ye like WL>>>Mara and AM>>>Shaman, evil order biased game.
Help those poor destru classes, can't watch them getting dominated this much. ;(
Do you know why mara > wl? Bugs, bugs on both classes

Mara was strong because abilites that shouldn't benifiting from piercing bite were still benifiting from it and deadly clutch leeched all healing like potions not just Incoming heals while wl was one of the most unpolished classes on war; you can't compare a polished vs unpolished class and then QQ about the unpolished class

But if you remove the bugs and everything and the two classes are easily equal with both being one of the best single target melees in the game
Wls have some of the best burst in the game, the ability to easily perma snare kite a target and an ablity that functions as both a gap closer and an escape tool and az said that the devs will work on improving the pet ai and furthermore said they will rework how stats are done between player gear and pets

The only real "advantage" Mara will have then over wl will be that maras brut tree is organized better than wls axe man

I don't know what you mean when you, telen and others say sham > am when their basically the same really, all sham has is some move speed tactic but that's not really a big deal nor as great an imbalance issue as kotbs being better than every other tank in the game, destro having no rkds, or slayer bein hands down better than choppa at every stage of the game as well as eaisly the best mdps
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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#14 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:17 pm

Removing marauder bugs will make it weaker yes, and mara will still be 10times better than wl. I can go on why, but if you can't see that you have no conzept of what is strong in this game.
Just some points for mara: pb, wounds debuff, fof, inc hd, armor pen immunity, disarm, pull which is then times better than the wl one, even with improved pet ai.
So tell what has wl to make up for those things.

And let me tell you, slayer is so strong with id because it's bugged. It proccs m2 and wg which it shouldn't. Because its type is dmg instead of ailment what it should be. Fixing this will weaken slayer alot. Stop comparing a bugged class (slayer) to a fixed (choppa).

And are you really saying shaman has only speed tactic over am? You really have no clue what you're talking about. Shaman has detaunt tactic, a second hot aswell and as u said the run tactic. These three things alone make a good shaman the toughest healer to kill in t4, even tougher than wp/dok. Meanwhile AM is the easiest one to kill.

I'm sorry, but your understanding of classes and their strentgh and weakenesses is horrible.
You are just trying to get order things nerfed and destrus buffed.
The only thing you got right in your entire post is that kotbs is the best tank.


Edit: Please try to come up with real arguments this time, would be a welcome change.

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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#15 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:14 am

Coryphaus wrote:The only real "advantage" Mara will have then over wl will be that maras brut tree is organized better than wls axe man
You have clearly no idea what makes Mara better class than WL overall.

And Slayer will be strong even if you remove ID proccing.
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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#16 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:21 pm

I was going to make a separate post for this, but I thought it would be better to ask here first!

What is a standard Slayer DPS rotation at lvl 26?
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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#17 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:25 pm

wounds it's better vs moral spam, unless you face that a lot you can negate it for str+ wp skill.
with a ratio of 2-1 more or less
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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#18 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:54 pm


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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#19 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:57 pm

Indeed. Best spec for Slayer right know. My destro characters approve.
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Re: [Build] slayer

Post#20 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:01 pm

Bump, still waiting for your answer coryphaus. Instead of answering to my post and addressing your missconceptions you run away and continue crying about wl etc. in another thread...

How about trying to reason your points for once?

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