Wanna be a warrior? sorry you can only be a priest.

[Azarael]

Stop asking for change before to be lev40 with stuff 60-70 mini...

There's no way that high level armor sets are going to be allowed to dictate the game's basic balance. The itemization is a slave to the balance, not the other way around.

[Sulorie]

Apart from small scale fights, melee wp/dok are good for pve. I don't see why you want to buff them? Not every class has to shine in all roles.

[Azarael]

Probably because the original concept of WP/DoK didn't call for a backlining medium armored group heal spammer, which is what we got.

[wos]

wp and dok have a melee healing tree u get the fist spambl spell at 34 i think somewhere arond there u hit a foe and u can hit for 0 damage u still get a bace heal to ur teem but if it dos damage a % of that is add to the bace heal vale of the spell and the aoe puls spell with dus aoe damage from u for a pirode of time and heals u and party for the damage this is the tree my wife is going to do when the lvl cap gets that hight and ill gard her on my BG epik teem

[Deadpoet]

I'd like to thank every poster in this thread for bothering to back their criticism with sensible arguments and never resort to idle or insulting disqualification of my suggestions, and specially Azarael for putting once more my jumbled
thoughts into words in such a concise and clear fashion.

[Renork]

It would be incredibly hard to balance them to be honest. On paper the class sounds like a great concept, but it really isn't.

[gokkentime]

I loved the warrior priest and I found this class so awesome back on live, the whole purge concept running out with a knight or a witch hunter and purging heretics!

But yea I must say I quit the warrior priest, because I liked the more active healer playstyle, where you run up and maybe you die. but high risk reward and all that, and it teaches people hey I should protect my healer then we win, insted of lol why u n heal?

The warrior priest is a genius concept, but it how it plays is worse than a frozen turd covered in dog piss.

1: tomes remove the entire mechanic, making melee 100% useless. you regain enough fury to heal godly amounts!

2: the armor auro+ regain from tome, means you can stand in the back and basicly have the same armor as most tanks and spamheal.

3: in risk of nerfing the priest, it is rediculess their heal is 1 sec an all others are 2 sec or is it 2,5? the original idea, was their heals should be faster to allow melee casting but, hey lets make people avoid melee casting all together. Again this is not a call for a nerf, but it forces the priest into a role of only throwing group heals.

4: WHY DO I HAVE TO PRESS SO MANY BUTTOMS TO SLOW!!! arrg this is not a combo move from some arcade game! melee combat needs to be more fluent. Also soulfire 2 seconds cast wtf!?

5: in general warriorpriests, other playstyles really need more fluency or buffs. Because healing is the only viable thing. maybe if the shield reflected damage, or sorta the same mechanic as the same with heals= more damage and damage= more heal.

I ended up playing shaman, because that concept is more fluid and good.

I can cast heals and aoe debuff if I wanna do damage, I can get nice assists with silence.

I can kite and kill people with dots, because I can buff their damage with healing.

I can fairly easy switch between damage and healing, and most of the time succeed.

SUMMARY, do you wan't to do damage have some solo kills and more fluid actionstyle gameplay= shaman. do you want to sit back, get yelled at for not healing, never having fun and being invicible= warriorpriest.

[Scurvydog]

I completely agree with the summary. I recently found this game was alive again and made a WP because i love en concept and lore. I got to rank 26 but whenever i log in with him, the experience is just "meh".

The WP feels very static and boring with melee not being viable, there is no action or thrill to the pure healer playstyle and little satisfaction in anything but organized group play moves, which is true for any class.

Looking at the warrior priest anywhere in warhammer lore and they are such badasses, but here they are just an auro/heal spam battery. Guess it is still better than in warhammer quest, where the poor WP is terrible at everything.

[Ungrin]

I think a nice way to get others to play different kinds of heals is to make the WP/DoK melee healing more viable.. how about a nerf to the group healing but make it so that when you heal with Divine Assault / Rend Soul it heals the entire party instead of just the defensive target? I think that'd be a nice boost to the healing of the WP/DoK in DPS mode. Also, you can reduce their healing a bit in groups, this would help people pick Zealots / RP's and Shamans and AM's, as well as boosting the healing/survivability of those other classes.. Just a thought.

[boog]

DPS WP @ this level are not overly effective I will agree. However, end game DPS WP can be very effective if played properly, much like DPS DoK. Though I will admit, IMO, DoK is either easier to play as DPS or severely better prepared to be played as DPS compared to DPS WP.

Also there is more than one way to go DPS WP than 2h. On my WP during live I created a 1h Book DPS build that worked very well especially when guarded.