RvR Points sharing (Experience, Influence & Renown)

[Vigfuss]

No. This will only bring OOG healers again.

Good point, and that will kill Warbands for casuals, or make them even easier to farm.

Right now the best way to get loot & other rewards is form a 6 man or even a smaller group and make sure someone in your group is last hitting targets. Or wait a week and buy what you need from the AH for cheap.

[zabis]

If the loot stays with the party/warband that gets the deathblow, and everyone that contributed to the kill gets xp/inf/rr (in or out of party), wouldn't the loot be enough to keep the healers in the party/warband?

[Penril]

If the loot stays with the party/warband that gets the deathblow, and everyone that contributed to the kill gets xp/inf/rr (in or out of party), wouldn't the loot be enough to keep the healers in the party/warband?

Then you would see more OOG DPS healers

[Jaycub]

If the loot stays with the party/warband that gets the deathblow, and everyone that contributed to the kill gets xp/inf/rr (in or out of party), wouldn't the loot be enough to keep the healers in the party/warband?

enough to keep them in 6 mans, Warbands maybe not.

A strat a lot of premades use is to follow the zerg around and use them as protection while they rack up deathblows. Most of the time if you are good you can get more deathblows than they get as your dps can be more aggressive, and splitting that loot 6 ways rather than 24 is much better.

[MrNobody]

I run solo simply because we can't manage the WBs yet. I've lost count of the number of players sub rank 11 taking up spots in the WB and having them AFK in the keep as they're too scared to step outside and get 2 shot. I lost a RS helm to one such SW. If another T2 player who contributed to the kill won it then all good but seeing a guy standing in the middle of the keep win it at level 8....**** that!

[normanis]

i think its good idea share xp/renown/influence to all who kill that mob. also include renown to healers when they heal ppl like it was on old war. maby than healers will start to heal better

[satori]

No. This will only bring OOG healers again.

better have solo healers actually healing instead of solo healers trying to DPS to get kills

that was the point of my first reply...

He is referring to live. Where OOG healers recieved more renown from healing outside the party than they did for playing in it. If the old system returns healers will go OOG to make more renown like they used to.

1) even if they get more renown solo it would still be better than the current system cause OOG healers would be healing and not dealing damage
2) renown is pretty useless right know since it is capped at a pretty low level AND you can't spend renown points
3) i don't see a problem in reducing the amount of rewards for leeching compared to live - just give ANY rewards^^ as of right now you can run around in open RvR healing like crazy for a week and you will get nothing

[Tesq]

yes ! cos you cannot not reward ppl cos someone exploit the out of group heals

If that's the problem lower renow earn by being out of party so that leech is not effective, also leech in that term only happened in sc and after a keep/zone lock.

So the issues you would like to avoid are very specific cases and can be individually fix.
Moreover, being out of party gave more renow than group hence why they were out of partys... if renow would be the same or less there would be no problem.

[wos]

on live that was the case, i don't know why you exluded the item in the first poll option, should be in there too!
i also miss the renown (and exp reward/participation when the healed target kills someone) from leeching since i play pretty much only healers

atm to get renown, exp, influence or items in open RvR as a solo RP (or RP+IB duo) you have to go DPS - and i really don't want to do that!

yah plus 1 it was good as a healer doing aoe oog healing in a t4 keep take all the solo players get the hp and u get some thing for ur effets

[wos]

well it was only alot if u healed a one on one kill if u healed a one on 10 kill u got stuff all but u still got some but u had to heal and if u were dps and did the solo u still got 1000+ nown depending on how long ago that toon was killed in rvr and on there rr rank. so if u killed a lvl 40 rr 10 u probly got 100 nown or lower if u healed that dps u got 10 nown or lower if a grupe rolled him probly 10 for all but if u took out a lvl40 rr80 well u could net ur self 1000+nown but if u tryed to killed him over and over agen you would get stuff all