Can we talk about stealth nerf of OYK all of a sudden.
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=25404
I think the nerf to SS was too much. It seems people forgot that the range of our finishers had already been nerfed, so the tradeoff should have been something actually strong.
The MDPS patch for WE achieves NOTHING. WEs are back to spamming AW + Witchbrew with % damage-increase tactics. Basically, we're back to the same playstyle we've had for years.
There is no real "in-your-face" playstyle for WE with this patch!
The class mechanic is not being used at all, while WHs have access to strong synergy builds like DG + BAL, with Burn Heretic and Incendiary Shot being core abilities.
With Flowing Accusations, you basically have a class that can spam finishers almost nonstop: DG → BAL → Burn Heretic → Absolution. If you run out of Accusations, hello Incendiary Shot — or Sanctified Oil + Burn Armor.
Luckily, the only decent WH I've seen consistently using this build is Logix. Sooner or later, though, more WHs are going to figure out just how OP this build is.
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abezverkhiy
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Re: Can you please make
I use Flowing Accusations is almost every build I play. And yes, Incendiary Shot is a gap filler.Krima wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 5:32 pm The class mechanic is not being used at all, while WHs have access to strong synergy builds like DG + BAL, with Burn Heretic and Incendiary Shot being core abilities.
With Flowing Accusations, you basically have a class that can spam finishers almost nonstop: DG → BAL → Burn Heretic → Absolution. If you run out of Accusations, hello Incendiary Shot — or Sanctified Oil + Burn Armor.
But what is the synergy of DG + BAL? Ranged stun or something else?
- Sinisterror
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All true. Ive stopped playing WE because nothing is satisfying anymore, it feels like WE are forced to spec Witchbrew, if it did crit dmg again, then i could make WE fun again for myself. Losing Range on Ruthless Assault+Puncture when WH keeps all their range attacks and get Accusation Building 30ft ability as well? Someone said that if Witchbrew is given to Witch hunters Then Welfs can have Bal at 5pts ability : D Man i wish this would happen and the forum would be fun to watch if this switch would happen.Krima wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2026 5:32 pm Can we talk about stealth nerf of OYK all of a sudden.
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=25404
I think the nerf to SS was too much. It seems people forgot that the range of our finishers had already been nerfed, so the tradeoff should have been something actually strong.
The MDPS patch for WE achieves NOTHING. WEs are back to spamming AW + Witchbrew with % damage-increase tactics. Basically, we're back to the same playstyle we've had for years.
There is no real "in-your-face" playstyle for WE with this patch!
The class mechanic is not being used at all, while WHs have access to strong synergy builds like DG + BAL, with Burn Heretic and Incendiary Shot being core abilities.
With Flowing Accusations, you basically have a class that can spam finishers almost nonstop: DG → BAL → Burn Heretic → Absolution. If you run out of Accusations, hello Incendiary Shot — or Sanctified Oil + Burn Armor.
Luckily, the only decent WH I've seen consistently using this build is Logix. Sooner or later, though, more WHs are going to figure out just how OP this build is.
I would love Bal instead of SS and there doesnt exist any Welf who wouldnt make this trade. Salvage this situation by giving welf range back, and 30ft ranged frenzy building direct spirit dmg ability and making SS being 10s 10-50% AA dmg increase, because that makes sense, Bal is dmg over 9s and this would also give passive dmg for 10s while you can build frenzies to do another SS. It flows smoothly, current welf does not. WH feels smooth/great flow.
If SS was 30ft range and not require flank/back to use it, i could see the logic behind the ability, because it has SNARE. Now 5ft needs to be behind target, and you wont get to targets behind when you are snared so there are times when you just cannot use this ability when it would be most important time to use it.
"To clarify, me asking to developers to go test their own changes is not sign of toxicity or anger, but a sign of hope that the people punching in the numbers remain aware of potential consequences and test their own changes"-Teefz
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abezverkhiy
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Elves and humans have this in common - they do not value what they have and look elsewhere. I would happily trade BaL for SS for its slow property.
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FeelFreeToDie
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There is so few WE left that i even stop holding my finger on detaunt all the time..i feel too relaxed :<
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