Give WP/DoK a gap closer.

[coldhunter]

I think problem can be solved if Fist of Khaine/Judgement will have 50% chance to apply covenant/prayer effect and WP will have same -20% movement speed debuff on his dmg prayer, just as DOK has rn. This will allow them to slow target from distance with few casts and in the same time, 20% its not much, so RPDS still can kite them.

[M0rw47h]

I think problem can be solved if Fist of Khaine/Judgement will have 50% chance to apply covenant/prayer effect and WP will have same -20% movement speed debuff on his dmg prayer, just as DOK has rn. This will allow them to slow target from distance with few casts and in the same time, 20% its not much, so RPDS still can kite them.

That would matter for 1v1 stuff, but wouldn't adress real issue with how melee train groups are played.

You often engage, then disengage to bait and turn when they disengage themselves to pick up leftovers. You don't have as much mobility as rest of mDPS and trying to cover that with flee causes lots of issues alone: 1) drops morales, 2) has longer CD than charge, 3) can't charge into a flee if needed, 4) requires AP pot for any follow up, 5) offensive flee means no defensive flee for 40s...

After getting CCed (punted/staggered) return into mobile combat without a charge can be real deal breaker for party composition.

[rychu097]

lack of gap closer is painful but it could be too stronk combined with heals (but iam not balance spec)

but

i cant understand why dok have covenant with slow potential and wp doesnt? this is ridicolous and should be fixed.

ps.
2h Greathammer should have knockdown ability - lore wise

[Sinisterror]

Wp/Dok is the only class that has actually damaging "throw axe" ability, easily crits for 500-600. Live also had snare snare proc for every class in some wpn. Odjira 60% Speed proc talisman existed, Wp could cleanse few shaman dots in AoR im pretty sure if i remember right. Wp also had Guilty Soul that healed 150% of dmg done so with judgement, Gs, Smite, you actually had possibilty of killing the ranged class. And Dok Obviously had the most OP aoe heal debuff in the game + Snare covenant. Wp/Dok also gets cleanse and ofc small heals, these are not much but cleanse is always good + long range detaunt + aoe melee detaunt.

RoR should add 25% Chance to snare target for 3s on judgement to 2H Wp. That would give a much better chance. Btw Wp Absorb Prayer is super op : D Espesially because its passive on being hit. You took away my Archmage/Shaman Tactic Green an cleanin, single target double absorb/hot but requires to use cleanse twice on target.

If that was too much absorb what is this Wp prayer then?

[lemao]

Ask you mates to snare targets.

[kleinbuchstabe]

If i remember right, once there was a charge for dps dok. I think it was after the class remake when shields were implemented.
It was the 3rd mastery ability on the dual wield path. And it was a real game changer for this class. Later they downgraded it to this "juggernaut" ability and made it a basic skill.

Would be a good change to get it back, and would make it more playable again.
After all the nerfs the dual wield path sustained healwise, it wouldnt be too much to bring that back again.

[Cullenn]

If i remember right, once there was a charge for dps dok. I think it was after the class remake when shields were implemented.
It was the 3rd mastery ability on the dual wield path. And it was a real game changer for this class. Later they downgraded it to this "juggernaut" ability and made it a basic skill.

Would be a good change to get it back, and would make it more playable again.
After all the nerfs the dual wield path sustained healwise, it wouldnt be too much to bring that back again.

That's what i hope too, adding a speed buff to unstoppable wrath for WP and make both us melee dps healers a chance to catch up, only avalible for dual wielding/2h.