Nerf RP/Zeal into the ground..

[Florian90210]

Rp overbuffed with long range resist debuff, no need to channel to snare target. Zealot is fine.
Also if you nerf 50% damage reduction, zealot's aoe build will be dead. (it's almost dead with wind nerf)

[coldhunter]

Build: https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 16,713,585
Renowns: TB to max is the important one, rest you can switch around.

You have a wrong build, m8. You need to pick last tactic in Valaya, instead of first.
RoR.builders - Runepriest

[nat3s]

Build: https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 16,713,585
Renowns: TB to max is the important one, rest you can switch around.

You have a wrong build, m8. You need to pick last tactic in Valaya, instead of first.
RoR.builders - Runepriest

Nah, the snare is significantly better. Can see why people prefer the disrupt strikethrough and passive healing, but having used both extensively, snare is stronger for solo play imo. Granted ability snare + tactic = kiting heaven!

[Sanctific]

Yeah, its weird how RP is simply superior to a Zeal both in terms of DPS & surivability at sov level of gear in solo environment. The crazy resist debuff which comes from fulmination is the real deal, in addition to the DMG fulmination deals on its own. The play style is identical for both (like, almost literally, even rotations are nearly identical) yet the difference is immense.

Since I dont have an RP myself (albeit I do have a dps zeal) i tested the max DPS of both on a PTR vs a dummy and RP was reaching 1.2k DPS in several of the best tests, whilst zeal - i couldnt push it further than 1.05k (even that i obtained at the factual crit rate much higher than it should've been i.e. nearly 70% of stuff has critted, used tortal's dps meter for detailed stats). Also, that max DPS on zeal was achieved not with +2 sov and NOT with shock build but with echo build + 5/4 sov/vic (maxed crit for the best spike DPS which may be potentially achieved), whilst 1.2k on RP was with +2 sov fulmination/binding build (i.e. pure glass cannon RP built for max dps may potentially reach figures somewhat higher than that, roughly +10%-15% i.e. 1.3-1.4k dps).

I wish echo was remade into the equivalent of fulmination lol ;p
Kidding, i dont, fulmination is broken in solo environment when weaved into rotation of +2 sov RPs, that would make things super boring and un-sporty.

P.S: Some may say "hey, but you have talon on a zeal". Yeah, we do, its m1, lasts for 15 sec only, consumes GCD, prevents from using other great m1s or waiting out for m2s. Isnt the case with fulmination's resist debuff, which in general doesnt have any downsides of using talon (oh, and usable from the very start of the fight which allows some crazy burst feats).

[coldhunter]

Yeah, we do, its m1, lasts for 15 sec only, consumes GCD, prevents from using other great m1s or waiting out for m2s. Isnt the case with fulmination's resist debuff, which in general doesnt have any downsides of using talon (oh, and usable from the very start of the fight which allows some crazy burst feats).

Yeah. And dont forget that RP has one of the most toxic m1 in game, which turns even melee classes in to casters

[nocturnalguest]

Yeah. And dont forget that RP has one of the most toxic m1 in game, which turns even melee classes in to casters

Oh nice mention btw, greatly underused M1 which is super strong and ultra toxic on all levels of gameplay

The fact you dont have to pay for it with FM unlike AM is also strong af

[gisborne]

That's essentially where it comes from. Capped int, 200+ mag power, 1.5k insta heal, 50% dmg reduction shield wall, dual hots, shield and all with 3k armour and 500 toughness. Also ability to switch to 900+ willpower and 200 heal power on-the-fly to turtle up if needed (rarely). They are a beast at present. Zeal not so much as no armour/tough tactics that RP gets from Dwarf.

I don't think those stats are even remotely possible. I just checked and this is what I have (no pots or buffs) with 4 DP/3 Sov/2 Tri and 2x Progenitor's Remnant of the Curative (this isn't optimal gear but it isn't far off):

Int 966
Magic Power 64
Armor 1992 (with Ancestral Inheritance)
Wounds 821
Toughness 248

You mention things like dual HoTs as if that does much. A WE with its heal debuffs can outdps the healing from a heal RP, let alone the pitiful healing you'd get from a DPS specced RP.

You're claiming that DPS RP/Zeal are the best solo roamer, but if that's the case why aren't there any? DPS Shaman? Tons. WE? Tons. SH? Tons. DPS Zeal....none to be found.

[nat3s]

That's essentially where it comes from. Capped int, 200+ mag power, 1.5k insta heal, 50% dmg reduction shield wall, dual hots, shield and all with 3k armour and 500 toughness. Also ability to switch to 900+ willpower and 200 heal power on-the-fly to turtle up if needed (rarely). They are a beast at present. Zeal not so much as no armour/tough tactics that RP gets from Dwarf.

I don't think those stats are even remotely possible. I just checked and this is what I have (no pots or buffs) with 4 DP/3 Sov/2 Tri and 2x Progenitor's Remnant of the Curative (this isn't optimal gear but it isn't far off):

Int 966
Magic Power 64
Armor 1992 (with Ancestral Inheritance)
Wounds 821
Toughness 248

You mention things like dual HoTs as if that does much. A WE with its heal debuffs can outdps the healing from a heal RP, let alone the pitiful healing you'd get from a DPS specced RP.

You're claiming that DPS RP/Zeal are the best solo roamer, but if that's the case why aren't there any? DPS Shaman? Tons. WE? Tons. SH? Tons. DPS Zeal....none to be found.

Oh dear, someone doesn't know how to gear! With that kind of armour, you're clearly not using armour talis lol or warlord. Yeah, you don't know the solo meta fella. That must be pre armour pot too right, so you're 2392 in reality without the armour from warlord set.

Here, copy-paste or load in RoRPlanner: https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... er/2963805

[Avanos]

That's essentially where it comes from. Capped int, 200+ mag power, 1.5k insta heal, 50% dmg reduction shield wall, dual hots, shield and all with 3k armour and 500 toughness. Also ability to switch to 900+ willpower and 200 heal power on-the-fly to turtle up if needed (rarely). They are a beast at present. Zeal not so much as no armour/tough tactics that RP gets from Dwarf.

I don't think those stats are even remotely possible. I just checked and this is what I have (no pots or buffs) with 4 DP/3 Sov/2 Tri and 2x Progenitor's Remnant of the Curative (this isn't optimal gear but it isn't far off):

Int 966
Magic Power 64
Armor 1992 (with Ancestral Inheritance)
Wounds 821
Toughness 248

You mention things like dual HoTs as if that does much. A WE with its heal debuffs can outdps the healing from a heal RP, let alone the pitiful healing you'd get from a DPS specced RP.

You're claiming that DPS RP/Zeal are the best solo roamer, but if that's the case why aren't there any? DPS Shaman? Tons. WE? Tons. SH? Tons. DPS Zeal....none to be found.

Oh dear, someone doesn't know how to gear! With that kind of armour, you're clearly not using armour talis lol or warlord. Yeah, you don't know the solo meta fella. That must be pre armour pot too right, so you're 2392 in reality without the armour from warlord set.

Here, copy-paste or load in RoRPlanner: https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... er/2963805

Teach me to make a stealth zealot, senpai..

I must make order cry so much to gain more traction on this thread.

[Sanctific]

That's essentially where it comes from. Capped int, 200+ mag power, 1.5k insta heal, 50% dmg reduction shield wall, dual hots, shield and all with 3k armour and 500 toughness. Also ability to switch to 900+ willpower and 200 heal power on-the-fly to turtle up if needed (rarely). They are a beast at present. Zeal not so much as no armour/tough tactics that RP gets from Dwarf.

I don't think those stats are even remotely possible. I just checked and this is what I have (no pots or buffs) with 4 DP/3 Sov/2 Tri and 2x Progenitor's Remnant of the Curative (this isn't optimal gear but it isn't far off):

Int 966
Magic Power 64
Armor 1992 (with Ancestral Inheritance)
Wounds 821
Toughness 248

You mention things like dual HoTs as if that does much. A WE with its heal debuffs can outdps the healing from a heal RP, let alone the pitiful healing you'd get from a DPS specced RP.

You're claiming that DPS RP/Zeal are the best solo roamer, but if that's the case why aren't there any? DPS Shaman? Tons. WE? Tons. SH? Tons. DPS Zeal....none to be found.

Oh dear, someone doesn't know how to gear! With that kind of armour, you're clearly not using armour talis lol or warlord. Yeah, you don't know the solo meta fella. That must be pre armour pot too right, so you're 2392 in reality without the armour from warlord set.

Here, copy-paste or load in RoRPlanner: https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... er/2963805

Frankly - WTF? Why would you run armor talis & warlord on a zeal? Like, for real, why?

If a zeal specs into shock (like I do) - you're looking to max your dps to kill stuff faster, WL/armor gimps your already un-impressive dps further (until m1 is ready that is...by which point normally your target is nearly dead, if you dont over-cripple your dps).

Now, as to survivability approach - blue unguent is a default thing, as for linis - i personally run boundless sight.

Tactics (mind you, shock spec): transference, fury, prolonged suffering AAAAAND warped flesh. The latter combined with shield ritual & self shielding not only provide some impressive amounts of EHP but also make you crit immune whilst they last.

As to raw stats:

9.2k hp with lini but before self buff
2k-ish something armor (blue pot + 5sov/4vic)
-7 base CTBC
capped INT
29% crit
260-ish MP
Weapons: nihilists dagger & LV offhand (with hp stolen on being hit) or BL offhand, nowadays BL is totally viable option for solo roaming (IMO ofc)

All in all - with this build there is NO WH or WL which may kill you unless you've just had a hard fight and got your potions, dmg mitigation & wounds buff all on CD timer. However, you still stand a chance vs an AM (unless they have ishas's dispel sloted lol) or an RP in this case (if you go warlord/armor talis - you wont even scratch them, especially an AM).

P.S: Not that a zeal has any chances of winning vs a fulmination-based RP tho, that thing (fulmination), the resists debuff in particular, is simply broken atm. Fulmination RP simply does roughly 30% more dps than a zeal whilst the rest of the toolkit of both remain the same.