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Lescargo
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#31 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 11:09 am

Farrul wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 9:22 am
I like this better than Sunfury, it can really surprise casters who think they're safe with detaunt.

Imho if you also take Runefang and swap tactic setups based on your targets, im fairly certain your results would be even better. :)

Keep in mind Runefang will be up pretty much all the time even with lower parry against a fast hitting melee ( WE, Mara etc) .

Well, i already explained in details why im not using runefang/coordination combo, this is too much situational, even if you can proc it sometimes this not worth the less points in glory.
i don't wanna trade my overall dps and survivability for an hypotethic 10 sec minor dps boost that require to swap tactic wich can be something very punitive, especialy if you got adds and then you don't have the right tactics to fight the adds, it's something happens almost 80% of the time when you're roaming solo.

i mean lets say you have coordination + runefang, you have at best 30% parry counting the parry buff on shield rush (you're not gonna spend any renown points in +parry ofc, there's more important stuff to grab instead)
then you need to fight a class that doing a high quantity of damage (like a WE) to proc runefang regulary, wich is already situational.

So now you got runefang buff for 10 sec you need to profit from it, and the best is certainly use a myrmidias fury for it right ?
So now you need to be in a setup that using myrmidia's fury rn is worth it, but this is also situational because sometimes you don't wanna start a channeling and instead you just need to use a fast snare, or a punt, or you need to refresh your defensives skill because big damages incoming.
So you're not even sure to find the right spot to drop MF perfectly when runefang is up. Wich is situational.
AND you also need to consider that MF can be interupted xD

And like i said to Reynor, when you are bis geared you can hit the Strength softcap pretty easily with m2 emperor's champion wich is a really strong skill. that buff that give you 250 str,tough,wounds considering that buffing wounds is a straight heal of your hp pool of 2500 hp. You definitly want to use that m2 most of the time.

So you don't really need that +150 strength from runefang, ofc you might be strength debuffed sometimes and then you don't hit the softcap even under m2 buff.
but like i said, considering runefang is very stiuational, considering it requires to lock 2 tactics for it (or swap tactic wich can be really punitive) considering that speccing into those tactics will just lower the values of all glory skills.

I think it's just not worth it.

And like i said to reynor it's based on my experience, wich means that i have tested this on the battlefield. This is not just theorycrafting or speculations x)

Now, i wanna say.. i understand that peoples find my build doesnt look sexy at all, i mean there is no glamorous synergies, this is the steak/potatoes of the kotbs. Classic meal, nothing original, but it works well and it's pretty meta for solo ;)

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hordak774
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#32 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:37 pm

reynor007 wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:08 am Cool video and awesome fights. However, I can't understand the meaning of the 3 branches in that build. 25% damage for Glory abilities, +50% reflection for SOS, which is completely nerfed, + nerf to the resistance aura and stager? Instead of detaunt (one of the strongest abilities in the game) + Knock +20% parry I haven't played Kotbs in a while; it's been a tough time for him, but I think using Runefang and a combination of 1-2 branches would yield much more impressive results. (Of course, I could be wrong) I haven't logged into the game for over a year and a half.
how about make video of how 2h kotvs could shine now ?

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leubac
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#33 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:42 pm

Great video. Appreciated crossing your path on Order and playing with you.

The only thing I'm wondering regarding your spec if the choice of Demolishing Strike over Guardian of Light. Since you are doing mainly elemental damage, wouldn't the latter synergize better with the other absorbs (Emperor's ward and SoS) ? What do you think ?
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Farrul
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#34 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:42 pm

Lescargo wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 11:09 amWell, i already explained in details why im not using runefang/coordination combo, this is too much situational, even if you can proc it sometimes this not worth the less points in glory.
i don't wanna trade my overall dps and survivability for an hypotethic 10 sec minor dps boost that require to swap tactic wich can be something very punitive, especialy if you got adds and then you don't have the right tactics to fight the adds, it's something happens almost 80% of the time when you're roaming solo.
I was not suggesting Coordination or a different build, just the build you linked ( i.e remove one point of tree, place into runefanq, you won't notice the difference :) )

Now by this very same build you are using(conquest/glory). If you take away detaunt tactic or sunfury, put in runefang vs melee duels, it would perform better. In any 1vs1 case involving a caster it can be swaped out. Of course do as you please, its just a friendly suggestion.

Farrul
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#35 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 1:03 pm

zulnam wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 9:30 am in b4 Myrmudia's Fury gets locked to 2H.
Why would they? Some tanks have their channel attack available for SnB( Chosen, kotbs, BG ). BO used to have it as well, but for some reason it was prevented, it would be great if BO got Three hit combo in SnB again.

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TrainInVain
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#36 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 2:26 pm

Pahakukka wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:20 am
What we really need, is to get builds with high risk and high reward be more viable.
I bet there are a lot of lowbies and people who have toons spec'd for group fights that don't want to see that hapen.

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yoluigi
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#37 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 2:37 pm

Lescargo wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 5:36 am
yoluigi wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:41 am When patch released had alot of success with shield kotbs even with oppressor gear. You need to go full crit and use the crit tactic that does dmg on crit and parry tactic with focus offence. Use 3 offencive aura and use shining blade right after use channel soo it's a 30% armor pen plus every hit you do does 70+ dmg garanted proc. Won some fight 1v3 with shield gear even killing heals. it works men dont know why people go defencive. i can kill a dummy in 30 sec with normal rotation on shield with garbage gear set. It's all about shining blade and using the channel after. that's your dmg not the 3 stacking thing that's stuff aint good. with 3 auras you get 20 sec dot + the dot from crit. it all stack up but gota go full crit dont mater even if you get chance to get crit because your defence is block.

lol how your defence is block since you are stacking crit ? and how can you even consider stacking crit as a non bis geared toon and without a legendary talis ??

you won some real 1v3 with this ? i don't believe you, i need proofs.

im so unconfortable with the fact you guys spreading so hard when it's about theorycrafting. I mean, "being snb blocka stacking crit getting parry tactic + focus offence"

I'm reading this i'm like WTF BRO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

i mean, hows your parry/block/crit rate ? can you give some numbers ? hows your actual armor with FO ?

so if im right you are running runefang, coordination, focus offence tactics ?? like no defensive tactic at all ? as a full crit build with probably low block/parry rate ?

And you tell that you had a lot of success with this ?


Man my 2 cents, if you encounter the real gangstas outside you will be smashed hard with this, or just prove i'm wrong if not.
against WE you can swap focus offence with toughness tactic. 15% more dmg make a big differance with shining blade combo with channel can kill dummy in 30 sec gota go left tree and middle. You would suprise right now Shield knight is the only one that can go offencive shield because of shinning blade and channel combo with high crit. I dont have alot of parry but decent block you gonna melt magus and all magic/heals with that build you can alwas swap Focus offence when fighting melee. Teamed up with my friend ruxbin (2h ib) months ago and we killed a **** load of people back to back ganking us 3-4man. High block guard mitigate and he had the outgoing heal debuff. Nasty duo. Cant really trash the build if you never tried it. that 20 sec dot dmg from 3 aura +30% armor pen is nasty plus the crit dot tactic plus you can can their abilitiy and give initiative debuff. Right now shield knight offencive got all the tools they made it possible to go glass cannon.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 3,500,8044
But sure man if you wanna play safe go for your attrition build but they can still escape around 30% heal when they see your at full health or just avoid you the next fight they see you. That's the problem going defencive they just gonna run away or just avoid you.

Lescargo
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#38 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:10 pm

leubac wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:42 pm Great video. Appreciated crossing your path on Order and playing with you.

The only thing I'm wondering regarding your spec if the choice of Demolishing Strike over Guardian of Light. Since you are doing mainly elemental damage, wouldn't the latter synergize better with the other absorbs (Emperor's ward and SoS) ? What do you think ?

thanks,

Yes GoL is good too, i just don't use it for two reasons :

- DS helps to setup a Myrmidia's fury burst on armored target. situational but reccurent.

- GoL as a m1 is a trap i can fall easily in, i mean, i might want to use it as a comfort skill more than necessary, and then i will miss the m2 wich is more interesting to me.

I understand myself enough to know that i lack a bit of discipline to use it wisely.

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Lescargo
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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#39 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:39 pm

yoluigi wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 2:37 pm
Lescargo wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 5:36 am
yoluigi wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:41 am When patch released had alot of success with shield kotbs even with oppressor gear. You need to go full crit and use the crit tactic that does dmg on crit and parry tactic with focus offence. Use 3 offencive aura and use shining blade right after use channel soo it's a 30% armor pen plus every hit you do does 70+ dmg garanted proc. Won some fight 1v3 with shield gear even killing heals. it works men dont know why people go defencive. i can kill a dummy in 30 sec with normal rotation on shield with garbage gear set. It's all about shining blade and using the channel after. that's your dmg not the 3 stacking thing that's stuff aint good. with 3 auras you get 20 sec dot + the dot from crit. it all stack up but gota go full crit dont mater even if you get chance to get crit because your defence is block.

lol how your defence is block since you are stacking crit ? and how can you even consider stacking crit as a non bis geared toon and without a legendary talis ??

you won some real 1v3 with this ? i don't believe you, i need proofs.

im so unconfortable with the fact you guys spreading so hard when it's about theorycrafting. I mean, "being snb blocka stacking crit getting parry tactic + focus offence"

I'm reading this i'm like WTF BRO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

i mean, hows your parry/block/crit rate ? can you give some numbers ? hows your actual armor with FO ?

so if im right you are running runefang, coordination, focus offence tactics ?? like no defensive tactic at all ? as a full crit build with probably low block/parry rate ?

And you tell that you had a lot of success with this ?


Man my 2 cents, if you encounter the real gangstas outside you will be smashed hard with this, or just prove i'm wrong if not.
against WE you can swap focus offence with toughness tactic. 15% more dmg make a big differance with shining blade combo with channel can kill dummy in 30 sec gota go left tree and middle. You would suprise right now Shield knight is the only one that can go offencive shield because of shinning blade and channel combo with high crit. I dont have alot of parry but decent block you gonna melt magus and all magic/heals with that build you can alwas swap Focus offence when fighting melee. Teamed up with my friend ruxbin (2h ib) months ago and we killed a **** load of people back to back ganking us 3-4man. High block guard mitigate and he had the outgoing heal debuff. Nasty duo. Cant really trash the build if you never tried it. that 20 sec dot dmg from 3 aura +30% armor pen is nasty plus the crit dot tactic plus you can can their abilitiy and give initiative debuff. Right now shield knight offencive got all the tools they made it possible to go glass cannon.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 3,500,8044
But sure man if you wanna play safe go for your attrition build but they can still escape around 30% heal when they see your at full health or just avoid you the next fight they see you. That's the problem going defencive they just gonna run away or just avoid you.

Yeah you're right i can't trash the build without testing it, and i might give it a try for sure, it sounds interesting.

But the thing is maybe it's your job part to prove that build is viable inside the endgame solo scene, it is YOUR build, what do you think about that ?

You know we are talking about solo builds, and you telling that it was working well when teamed up with a friend.

That's sound quite alarming and makes me think that you haven't really had the opportunity to test this build in real conditions, with a bis gear, against bis geared solo monsters who know what they're doing.

Earlier i checked your stats bcause i was curious, and you don't have much solo kills and i don't see the toughest cookies on the list.
Don't get me wrong, it doesnt mean your build is bad, it just means you don't have enough perspective to draw any conclusions.

But again, prove i'm wrong and run big solo pov, record and show the stuff,

I would be very happy to see that a crit build is viable. Sincerely. i can't wait for this.

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Re: Scrubosaurus - Kotbs Solo 1vX Part .1

Post#40 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 6:33 pm

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