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SuperStar
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

Post#171 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:28 am

Or finally stop giving free tactic, magic dmg resist debuff the tanks.

At this point you shoul decide
Is this a holy trinity game

Or

A modern game where everybody a dps, selfhealer and deftard/ survivalist.

If you want to make a modern game do not forget about the other classes.

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SuperStar
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

Post#172 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:38 am

And if you give every tank free punt with 10cd and snare, give it to the magus too.

Make the magus punt instant cast, big and long and without cd and with snare too.

Time to make fairplay.

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wildwindblows
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

Post#173 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:45 am

SuperStar wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:38 am And if you give every tank free punt with 10cd and snare, give it to the magus too.

Make the magus punt instant cast, big and long and without cd and with snare too.

Time to make fairplay.
Why give super punt to a range class?

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Florian90210
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

Post#174 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:13 am

JohnnyWayne wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 12:06 am If they get all the stuff now for free, can the IB FINALLY get grudge generation on hit, like the BG does? That wasted tactic slot is just.... Lets call it uncalled for....
I guess it's part of class balance, IB already has less abilities depended on grudges and he hit really hard, BG have to spend tactics too for extra crit, while IB has it component in ability itself.
I never saw BG doing considarable damage, but 2H IBs do considerable damage.

SuperStar
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

Post#175 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:18 am

wildwindblows wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:45 am
SuperStar wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:38 am And if you give every tank free punt with 10cd and snare, give it to the magus too.

Make the magus punt instant cast, big and long and without cd and with snare too.

Time to make fairplay.
Why give super punt to a range class?
Because iam a private person and i have a huge aura, i dont like anybody near me so i want them insta punt with snare without even a tactic slot same like now every tanks, also if a tank can do magic dmg and resist debuff i would like to do the super punts, i can punt guards too not just ppl near me.

SuperStar
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

Post#176 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:26 am

At this point i suggest give every ability and tactic and morale to every class and they can choose what they need.

Full freedom the class would be only the looking.
We should accept the balance is dead, no hope this is the only way.

Every class should access to every other class abilities and tactics and moral, no need the stupid mastery tree either. Everybody pick what they like.

Because now it is nonsense. You give the free tactics like a candy. Make the game golf simulator.

I hope you have any concept but i cant see it at all.

JohnnyWayne
Posts: 23

Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

Post#177 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:42 am

Florian90210 wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:13 am
JohnnyWayne wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 12:06 am If they get all the stuff now for free, can the IB FINALLY get grudge generation on hit, like the BG does? That wasted tactic slot is just.... Lets call it uncalled for....
I guess it's part of class balance, IB already has less abilities depended on grudges and he hit really hard, BG have to spend tactics too for extra crit, while IB has it component in ability itself.
I never saw BG doing considarable damage, but 2H IBs do considerable damage.
I think you are comparing enraged beating (a 5 points ability) with grudge born fury (a 13 points ability). Where does IB get the crit out of the box? Is it only for GBF? If so, ive shown you why it is stronger. Generally, BGs put out more damage than IBs. They got a well usable aoe that reduces wounds and crits with up to 1k damage. They got an aoe snare with double the range over IB, though its only a cone, it is better due to the range. The IB snare CAN hit hard if you have high grudge. BG gets that reliable out of the box, but again, with more cone range.

Originally, BGs had no oath friend equivalent. They got dark protector after complaints. That is also the reason why they get hate through dealing damage and IBs don't. Time to makes things balanced on that end. There used to be the argument, that IBs are more tanky but that is no longer the case with grumble and mutter gone. Also there was a point to be made, with Told You So! being unlimited and therefore you had to limit the AP battery. That is also gone with Gravords "rework" of the IB. And finally, why should 2h IBs that have no such tools with them(told you so and grumble and mutter) be in such a disadvantageous position? Give 2h IBs grudge generation on hit or IBs in general. Its high time. By now, i think, it is the weakest tank for group play.

Oh and before you jump onto any train, I have both classes in bis gear. SnB and 2h. And many more...

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