On the point of Disrupts, I do opt in for 1 Annulus and the Gunbad Jet instead of going x2 Annulus. I've also been toying around with the Idea of dropping the BL staff for the new upcomming DarkPromise Staff (4% disrupt) -- will be curious to see how that feels.
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My sorc is some of the most fun I have on the game. There are many instances the amount of kill pressure i'm able to produce is crazy (Witch King x3 DC's
). You can stay really mobile in warbands by 1 ticking knives and pool on the run (procing backlash tactic) and infernal wave + surging pains. There are plenty times I wish Obsessive Focus or Shroud of Darkness was something more usefull like a 'Juggernaut' or 'charge' lol. I do think Sorc is in a pretty good place and i'd hate for it to be changed for the worse. With that being said though, you require so much organized support. So is a class that requires being baby-sat by supports a good game design for players not interested in Org play? Probably not...
On the point of Disrupts, I do opt in for 1 Annulus and the Gunbad Jet instead of going x2 Annulus. I've also been toying around with the Idea of dropping the BL staff for the new upcomming DarkPromise Staff (4% disrupt) -- will be curious to see how that feels.
On the point of Disrupts, I do opt in for 1 Annulus and the Gunbad Jet instead of going x2 Annulus. I've also been toying around with the Idea of dropping the BL staff for the new upcomming DarkPromise Staff (4% disrupt) -- will be curious to see how that feels.
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Re: BW/sorc buff when?
So I clicked through your skirmishes first 5 -10 or so and can inform you that your medium armour mdps guildies are at par or better in most 100+ skirmishes.
The fun part is they typically need less babysitting and bring util and CC as well. Not to mention Detaunt, snare break, pulls, charge, defensive M1:s that make a difference.
So you are in the prefect setup with cd dec in the most favourable setting (guild crew/blobin for pugs) and are by my understanding of your stats upper half dmg/kbs/kill damage while playing a class that barely function in other settings and being the weakest link.
Good spot? You like it and it is fun?
The fun part is they typically need less babysitting and bring util and CC as well. Not to mention Detaunt, snare break, pulls, charge, defensive M1:s that make a difference.
So you are in the prefect setup with cd dec in the most favourable setting (guild crew/blobin for pugs) and are by my understanding of your stats upper half dmg/kbs/kill damage while playing a class that barely function in other settings and being the weakest link.
Good spot? You like it and it is fun?
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Re: BW/sorc buff when?
Since sorc/BW are looked out of several other game modes (solo, solo ranked, group v group small man, 6man, pug wbs aren’t optimal) I’d expect them to shine here and I mean be like 20-30% better in raw damage and kbs. Glad I moved on lel
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The last several Skirmishes that you are looking at are WB's that i'm personally leading on (Where i'm first one in) and tend to get punted out rather quickly. Here are several recent skirms where I get to just DPS and not having to focus on shot calling and positioning of my warband:Bozzax wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 6:27 pm So I clicked through your skirmishes first 5 -10 or so and can inform you that your medium armour mdps guildies are at par or better in most 100+ skirmishes.
The fun part is they typically need less babysitting and bring util and CC as well. Not to mention Detaunt, snare break, pulls, charge, defensive M1:s that make a difference.
So you are in the prefect setup with cd dec in the most favourable setting (guild crew/blobin for pugs) and are by my understanding of your stats upper half dmg/kbs/kill damage while playing a class that barely function in other settings and being the weakest link.![]()
Good spot? You like it and it is fun?
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I also conceded that Sorc shines in certain aspects of the game and lacks in many other areas. How come you are so fired up?
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Re: BW/sorc buff when?
You play in an optimal setting as main A and need to dig out 2 months old skirmishes to show case top performance
Well point made (this is nothing about you or your guild just blown away how low expectations are by sorcs that play)
I’d expect you to do more kbs / damage as a mara leading the same grp with AOE Kd, morale drain and tackiness while dying less (perhaps not have as much fun)
Well point made (this is nothing about you or your guild just blown away how low expectations are by sorcs that play)
I’d expect you to do more kbs / damage as a mara leading the same grp with AOE Kd, morale drain and tackiness while dying less (perhaps not have as much fun)
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I don't understand why I need to justify, but i'll do it anyways.
1. None of those skirms are 2 months old
2. There was a week or two where killboard skirmish reports were not being posted or i'd have several more.
3. I lead Majority of the time i'm on my sorc as Agony forms prior to when I get home, so most of the time I get to play sorc in an Org wb setting (where I said sorc shines) I have to lead on her. I'm also terrible multi-tasker and not able to focus on my own gameplay while leading. So I provided the last few non-leading clear comms reports.
4. I've been focusing on order during the event for rings - SW 1-40 farming sc's for boxes and a bit of WL
5. I'm going to chalk this up to a language barrier and assume you are not from the US. I have found Sorcs to be incredible as they are: in *ONE aspect of the game; and that is in Organized wb play (Logics would disagree and add Solo/Small man as well). Do I think that is good game design for a class? As stated above, it probably is not.
1. None of those skirms are 2 months old
2. There was a week or two where killboard skirmish reports were not being posted or i'd have several more.
3. I lead Majority of the time i'm on my sorc as Agony forms prior to when I get home, so most of the time I get to play sorc in an Org wb setting (where I said sorc shines) I have to lead on her. I'm also terrible multi-tasker and not able to focus on my own gameplay while leading. So I provided the last few non-leading clear comms reports.
4. I've been focusing on order during the event for rings - SW 1-40 farming sc's for boxes and a bit of WL
5. I'm going to chalk this up to a language barrier and assume you are not from the US. I have found Sorcs to be incredible as they are: in *ONE aspect of the game; and that is in Organized wb play (Logics would disagree and add Solo/Small man as well). Do I think that is good game design for a class? As stated above, it probably is not.
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Re: BW/sorc buff when?
In pve sorc shines like no tomorrowBlkfiredrag wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 7:01 pm I also conceded that Sorc shines in certain aspects of the game and lacks in many other areas.
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Imagine what you could achieve as a choppa, chopping hits twice as hard as Knives, has no cd, does not require target, does not meet disrupt or cause backlash, on top of regular chopping you also have AA, and AA hits hard you can even buff aa for35% speed. you also have 'Juggernaut' and 'charge' lol and medium armor, and 40% parry so no need to worry.Blkfiredrag wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:45 pm My sorc is some of the most fun I have on the game. There are many instances the amount of kill pressure i'm able to produce is crazy (Witch King x3 DC's). You can stay really mobile in warbands by 1 ticking knives and pool on the run (procing backlash tactic) and infernal wave + surging pains. There are plenty times I wish Obsessive Focus or Shroud of Darkness was something more usefull like a 'Juggernaut' or 'charge' lol. I do think Sorc is in a pretty good place and i'd hate for it to be changed for the worse. With that being said though, you require so much organized support. So is a class that requires being baby-sat by supports a good game design for players not interested in Org play? Probably not...
On the point of Disrupts, I do opt in for 1 Annulus and the Gunbad Jet instead of going x2 Annulus. I've also been toying around with the Idea of dropping the BL staff for the new upcomming DarkPromise Staff (4% disrupt) -- will be curious to see how that feels.
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Re: BW/sorc buff when?
Honestly just remove backlash at this point.
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