Order exploiting in Mourkain Temple

[Drustos]

You did it in order to prevent Destro from doing it? That's some winning logic right there...

I did it because I wanted an emblem. If I didn't do it, Destro would've done it, and I wouldn't have gotten an emblem.

you don't enjoy cheating so you cheat? ffs. jack out some of that random heavy handed ban fun.

I don't enjoy cheating, but I can't stop other people from doing it, so I might as well benefit myself and my team until it's fixed.

Translation : "I did this really bottom feeding scummy thing because if I didn't someone else would" you do realize how painfully dumb that sounds right ? I mean do what you want to do but you would of been better not even posting

Bottom feeding scummy thing? If you banned every person who either used this exploit or said nothing while their teammates did it, the scenario queues would be empty. What's more, nothing about this exploit prevents people from playing the game normally. They can still fight, earn renown, get drops, etc. If a fair fight is all that matters to people, and not winning, then what does it matter if anyone uses this exploit?

[Jayzboi]

i knew it. "both sides do it, therefore there is no problem".

Awesome community.

Calm down.

[Tiggo]

mourkain is very fine as is. just fix the exploit.

all this "other side cant comeback" is nonsense.

[Boozy]

Bottom feeding scummy thing? If you banned every person who either used this exploit or said nothing while their teammates did it, the scenario queues would be empty. What's more, nothing about this exploit prevents people from playing the game normally. They can still fight, earn renown, get drops, etc. If a fair fight is all that matters to people, and not winning, then what does it matter if anyone uses this exploit?

I didn't say a thing about banning anyone I just called it a real **** move which it clearly is. When we play sc's we are playing them as a form of competition of course winning matters what you just said is like saying "hey guys were just going to say our team won the baseball game but just hitting the ball and running the bases is all that matters" that's retarded not to mention when do this lame stuff 90% of the time the whole team just sits in the middle of the npc's so no there is no drops no renown and no medals, you can try to justify this behaviour anyway you want but at the end of the day your cheating

[Drustos]

I didn't say a thing about banning anyone I just called it a real **** move which it clearly is. When we play sc's we are playing them as a form of competition of course winning matters what you just said is like saying "hey guys were just going to say our team won the baseball game but just hitting the ball and running the bases is all that matters" that's retarded not to mention when do this lame stuff 90% of the time the whole team just sits in the middle of the npc's so no there is no drops no renown and no medals, you can try to justify this behaviour anyway you want but at the end of the day your cheating

Who is playing SCs for competition? SCs have no consequence in the game world, they exist solely to get convenient renown and loot for players when RvR isn't an option, either because they're getting crushed from server imbalance or zone lock, neither of which are considered exploits despite actually preventing players from enjoying the game and getting rewarded for their efforts.

Intentional or not, the Mourkain Temple exploit is a part of the game every player can use without tampering with the game itself, and people will continue to do it until it is fixed.

[Tiggo]

scs are all about competition. IMHO.

[Drustos]

scs are all about competition. IMHO.

I just think the rank 16s getting crushed by woe premades would disagree.

[Azarael]

Do we need to start splitting the queue into 1-11, 12-19 and 20?

[Tiggo]

difficult decision. dont know the impact on queue times. on the other hand scs would be much more balanced level wise...

i leveled completly by scs and never had problems being "crushed" by level20 premades... you lose now and then, but hey just go on, the next sc is waiting.

[Drustos]

Do we need to start splitting the queue into 1-11, 12-19 and 20?

I'm not going to tell anyone what they need to do, I just don't think scenarios are fair.

It's not as big of a problem in RvR, when which side is 'winning' just depends on the time of day and the server population, but dedicated players inadvertently make SCs miserable for everyone but themselves, and I'm saying that as someone with a main who has the RvR influence gear, who has a couple Woe items, and calamitous everything else. I've made alts, but I don't take them to SCs, it's just not worth it.