Another DPS Zealot Video

[Stinksuit]

Btw Is it worh it now to get + 2 mastery points for zeal to get both new Changers Echo and Aetheric shock?

Personally I wouldnt, but my opinion is for solo aspect. If you were to play in party then it could work. You could just use full sov for the crit granted ability if you're going for +2 anyway :)

[Scientific]

Btw Is it worh it now to get + 2 mastery points for zeal to get both new Changers Echo and Aetheric shock?

Using close to full offsov for the +2 is generally pretty bad for stats, plus you still don't have enough points to grab important tactics like hdb or cf. You'd be locked into running divine fury, transference, prolonged suffering, scourged warping, which is okay, but losing the ability to mix sets for stats is hard to justify. Plus you don't really need stagger solo. At least this is my opinion

[Scientific]

Very nice can runepriest do as much damage as this?

From what I've heard, no.
Dps zeal seems to be better at st dps while rp seems to be better at aoe.

DPS RP aoe advantage was nullified with the change to RoC and RoB aoe tactic removal. Now Zeal has both advantages with Waves of chaos, and better 9 and 13 point aoe abilites + the option to get Tzeench Lash as aditional AoE.

RP losing Extended Battle was a big nerf true, but Tzeentch's Lash AoE tactic would really only be used for the silence now, as it's damage is very low and you have better things to be running like Prolonged Suffering, Armor/Corp Debuff, HDB, etc. This also neglects to talk about RP's Grimnir's Fury ability (13points right tree) which I, admittedly, have previously undervalued. It's a solid ability that shouldn't be slept on due to the ability to layer it's damage with RoB, Cleaving, and Might.

In my opinion both Zeal and RP have around the same AoE potential.

Zealot has Spittle, Chaotic Agitation, and Waves of Chaos which can be layered at the same time. RP has Rune of Battle, Cleaving, Might, and Grimnir's Fury which can be layered. I haven't done the math on which does theoretically more damage since I've never felt the need to, but I suppose I could. CA does more damage than RoB, but you can't spam Ritual of Agony while casting CA. Zealot's AoE is ranged, while RP must play essentially melee. WB play is where the specs diverge the most tbh, but I'm not sure one is really better than the other.

[salazarn]

Being basically 1 shot by a row of dots wasn't fun against shaman.

And it turns out it isnt fun against zealots either.

Not a great addition to solo play imo.

[Ruin]

From what I've heard, no.
Dps zeal seems to be better at st dps while rp seems to be better at aoe.

DPS RP aoe advantage was nullified with the change to RoC and RoB aoe tactic removal. Now Zeal has both advantages with Waves of chaos, and better 9 and 13 point aoe abilites + the option to get Tzeench Lash as aditional AoE.

RP losing Extended Battle was a big nerf true, but Tzeentch's Lash AoE tactic would really only be used for the silence now, as it's damage is very low and you have better things to be running like Prolonged Suffering, Armor/Corp Debuff, HDB, etc. This also neglects to talk about RP's Grimnir's Fury ability (13points right tree) which I, admittedly, have previously undervalued. It's a solid ability that shouldn't be slept on due to the ability to layer it's damage with RoB, Cleaving, and Might.

In my opinion both Zeal and RP have around the same AoE potential.

Zealot has Spittle, Chaotic Agitation, and Waves of Chaos which can be layered at the same time. RP has Rune of Battle, Cleaving, Might, and Grimnir's Fury which can be layered. I haven't done the math on which does theoretically more damage since I've never felt the need to, but I suppose I could. CA does more damage than RoB, but you can't spam Ritual of Agony while casting CA. Zealot's AoE is ranged, while RP must play essentially melee. WB play is where the specs diverge the most tbh, but I'm not sure one is really better than the other.

i Agree on Tzeench Lash its jsut something you can jsut ad if you like, pity the Silence isont also AoE but its a nice stackable dot, witch you haw an option to use,
On the subject of Grimnirs Fury i do think its a crap ability, castable, stacionary, and in mele range. is the worst choice for a cloth caster. i do prefer to put 1 more ponit into mastery rather than pick it up.

[Scientific]

DPS RP aoe advantage was nullified with the change to RoC and RoB aoe tactic removal. Now Zeal has both advantages with Waves of chaos, and better 9 and 13 point aoe abilites + the option to get Tzeench Lash as aditional AoE.

RP losing Extended Battle was a big nerf true, but Tzeentch's Lash AoE tactic would really only be used for the silence now, as it's damage is very low and you have better things to be running like Prolonged Suffering, Armor/Corp Debuff, HDB, etc. This also neglects to talk about RP's Grimnir's Fury ability (13points right tree) which I, admittedly, have previously undervalued. It's a solid ability that shouldn't be slept on due to the ability to layer it's damage with RoB, Cleaving, and Might.

In my opinion both Zeal and RP have around the same AoE potential.

Zealot has Spittle, Chaotic Agitation, and Waves of Chaos which can be layered at the same time. RP has Rune of Battle, Cleaving, Might, and Grimnir's Fury which can be layered. I haven't done the math on which does theoretically more damage since I've never felt the need to, but I suppose I could. CA does more damage than RoB, but you can't spam Ritual of Agony while casting CA. Zealot's AoE is ranged, while RP must play essentially melee. WB play is where the specs diverge the most tbh, but I'm not sure one is really better than the other.

i Agree on Tzeench Lash its jsut something you can jsut ad if you like, pity the Silence isont also AoE but its a nice stackable dot, witch you haw an option to use,
On the subject of Grimnirs Fury i do think its a crap ability, castable, stacionary, and in mele range. is the worst choice for a cloth caster. i do prefer to put 1 more ponit into mastery rather than pick it up.

I also thought about this until I actually used it for a while. Hense why I said I undervalued it

[Ruin]

On another topic, for ppl that played Zeal, do you see any use for Manipulation tactic?

[salazarn]

I'm starting to dislike dps/heal hybrids.