How to deal with regen specs

[Pahakukka]

No blue is fail

Team yellow has the lead! Have you seen all those fresh beautiful yellow magiis!

Team blue is so good that even you have abandoned it!

[Florian90210]

If it's only you who escape, that changes nothing. Those cancer WH and WE don't care, they will still abuse regen crap or be in duos.
Stealth should be breakable with damage, it's stupid that I can hit them when I got lots init, but people around think I am just fighting with wind.

[Niemosin7]

Sometimes I would like to turn my brain off and go regen with my SM/Chosen/ and some other destro toon, with how few solo players there are these days and a lot of shammy/AM/magus/and gank running around, regen seems to be the only way I can survive in the lake while roaming. but yeah I do agree it still needs to be toned down a bit(or a lot). I really miss the old WS Parry man, used to get a lot of good fights with other melee classes without the need for regen, nowadays it's either regen WE that will just stagger+runaway then re-engaged with full health or range class that kite you to dead. so yup Imma just go regen to survive that then(lol), my only problem is that some classes can still do insane damage while doing def-regen, tanky af(yup that my regen Magus, it's so nasty killing lowbie gank while kiting around and still got full health).

My take on this. If you decide to go for a full defensive regen, it should be for defensive purposes only, and should not be allowed to do as much damage, but it seems many classes can still exploit this.

and how to deal with regen?

I think the best way is to run away from them if you can, save yourself the trouble, or just gank them in a group. Players who remember my regen toon running away from me all the time, and I understand, fighting regen is no fun, and I try not to pick on solo if possible unless they start the fight first.

[Farrul]

Sometimes I would like to turn my brain off and go regen with my SM/Chosen/ and some other destro toon, with how few solo players there are these days and a lot of shammy/AM/magus/and gank running around, regen seems to be the only way I can survive in the lake while roaming. but yeah I do agree it still needs to be toned down a bit(or a lot).

For tanks( actually tank classes, not tanky mdps) regen is mandatory in solo or they will not have a good time with all the abusive dots and rdps etc. It is the only archetype where regen stacking is justifiable.

The downside is that in a pure 1vs1 or duel these tanks can be annoying to fight and for some impossible to beat, especially Chosen/SM since they are magic classes and can focus more on toughness stacking rather than Weapon skill and still do splendid singletarget dps thanks to their magic attacks .

However they are easily countered due to their slow mobility when caught by faster classes/ranged dps in many situations. In fact solo roaming as a tank is a test of patience since they will be targeted by ganking squads or just get adds unable to escape it due to low mobility of the tank.

Regen does not really need a nerf, but certain items could be restricted to tank classes ( such as fleshrenders, grimmer etc). After all the purpose of a tank is to be tanky since they lack the mobility/dps/range of real dps classes. Maybe regen could be affected by Healing debuffs but imho it's not needed.

[Sinisterror]

60 renown points would be needed to have 180hp4... It only goes to 45 points and 140hp4. Can we get 15% Crit in one gear piece? 15% Crit wouldnt even be enough if we are going by ROR standards/Renown Points.

So yes obviously regen needs nerf and dps needs buff.

[rrrutsss]

Sometimes I would like to turn my brain off and go regen with my SM/Chosen/ and some other destro toon, with how few solo players there are these days and a lot of shammy/AM/magus/and gank running around, regen seems to be the only way I can survive in the lake while roaming. but yeah I do agree it still needs to be toned down a bit(or a lot).

For tanks( actually tank classes, not tanky mdps) regen is mandatory in solo or they will not have a good time with all the abusive dots and rdps etc. It is the only archetype where regen stacking is justifiable.

It is not justifiable.
It was tons of more fun playing dps tanks and also playing against them when there was little to no regen(times when there was like max 2 or 3 people on the server whit fleshrenders and that was it).
You had to think all your moves and time skills, now you just roam as a regen and dont care about anytiming or positioning mostly because you outlast everyone and can escape allmost all fights whit little to no effort.

[Nauht]

So how does destro counter a WH regen or is that not a thing?

[Allbback]

i have some thought in my mind...imo it's the dps too bad... when the gear lvl are the same why the regen set will beat non regen set? if my dps is enough why players will choose regen set ? i think devs need buff the dps until players go choose non-regen set....the gear set or the skill PSM, if the dps and the def set are good enough....then i think players wont go choose regen set...and i think this is one of reason why players go choose... bcuz dps not enough to break the regen fast enough and off/def sov end game gear not good enough to break the regen gear set....so players will go choose regen set...

i think if some day ror's gear like this... i think players wont go choose regen set..bcuz regen is not regen hp fast enough...and the gear set can break regen speed enough to get kill

https://imgur.com/a/real-gear-weapon-tlLGfEX

[mazi761111]

give back 1.1gcd crit dmg..

[Zxul]

To those who complain about regen, are you aware that removing it will mean small scale dominated by glass cannon rdps sniping mdps in 3-4 gcds, dps healers, and jumping wls? Or that is the plan, especially considering that there is no mirror class destro side with similar combination of frontal burst and mobility to wl?