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[WE]What to run at 75+ ?

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Chamypox
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[WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:05 am

Hi everyone,

I'm coming back from a few years break and i'm kinda lost on what to play with my 75 WE.
Most of the builds here are for low RR and people are talking about a regen build that has been nerfed to oblivion and nothing else.

Could someone show me the way to suffering please ? :D

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Sinisterror
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#2 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:33 am

Chamypox wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:05 am Hi everyone,

I'm coming back from a few years break and i'm kinda lost on what to play with my 75 WE.
Most of the builds here are for low RR and people are talking about a regen build that has been nerfed to oblivion and nothing else.

Could someone show me the way to suffering please ? :D
RoR.builders - Witch Elf This is my favourite. 4-Onslaught Pieces + 4 Sove with Bloodlord Wpn + Armour debuff proc wpn, run Kiss of Agony except when attacking healer. If you hit 1k str without str tactic and high crit there are many potential 4th tactics to use so pick u get most out of.

Man i wish onslaught added Jewelry so i could run 4 onslaught + full beastlord because that 6th bonus is truely good and then i would use frenzied mayhem because sometimes you have to use attack 1 time and you have 3 bloodlusts from beastlord bonus and you use second attack its surely to full bloodlust so you get alot out of the frenzied mayhem tactic that way.

Main attack is RA use it at 2-4 bloodlust points and when armour debuff proc light armour target with ToB + 4pc onsl proc 1600 Slice crits, btw Pierce Armor hits that same 1600 on that target and i dont know why SO MUCH of these special skills that had 2x Offensive stat Contribution but target had 2x toughness so toughness mattered this way!

Its stupid that Pierce Armor and Slice have the same dmg. Can we pls return to the original way to calculate dmg etc?
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Zxul
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#3 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:46 am

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 2,521,9434

Main goal is to get off as many 5 points RA as possible, which is why Whirling Blades. Filler is Slice, your first 2 Slices after RA benefit from BE as well. If you can get close to str cap without str tactic replace with whatever.

In this build you also have heal debuff, for a double heal debuff when combined with Kiss of Death (total 75%). You also have EoS- allows to use second opener on target as well. Or EoS followed by Shadow Leap, to help catching fleeing target.

On the side note- I recommend getting city dungeon daggers, one with armor debuff proc, and one with snaring opponent on being hit. No crit on them, but lot of ws, and crit is less important in this build- you don't have IP anyway.
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#4 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:57 am

OI! beautiful guide, thanks for that.

I also didn’t know that Kissing Death stacks with Lotusblade. That’s insane.
Do you use Agonizing Wound instead of Slice against certain opponents?
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Zxul
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#5 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:34 pm

wopwop25 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:57 am OI! beautiful guide, thanks for that.

I also didn’t know that Kissing Death stacks with Lotusblade. That’s insane.
Do you use Agonizing Wound instead of Slice against certain opponents?
Problem is that since you don't have any points in Treachery, AW base dmg is low. You could use it vs tanks, but you also have Envenomed Blade for corp dmg, and you do have some points in Suffering so it scales with those. Mostly it will be just Slice.
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#6 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:51 pm

Perfect, thank you! :)
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Zxul
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#7 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:08 pm

wopwop25 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:51 pm Perfect, thank you! :)
On the side note about tanks. Ib specifically has an ability which buffs corp resist, and which doesn't requires speccing, Stubborn as Stone, and if he really wants to push it, he also can slot a corp resist tactic which stacks with the ability. So worth testing it, physical dmg might actually be better than corp one vs ib.

And kotb will always have a resist aura, but they don't usually solo roam.
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#8 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:48 pm

Zxul wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:46 am https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 2,521,9434

In this build you also have heal debuff, for a double heal debuff when combined with Kiss of Death (total 75%). You also have EoS- allows to use second opener on target as well. Or EoS followed by Shadow Leap, to help catching fleeing target.

What Renown Points should be using with this setup?

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Zxul
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#9 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:23 pm

Blkfiredrag wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:48 pm
Zxul wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:46 am https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 2,521,9434

In this build you also have heal debuff, for a double heal debuff when combined with Kiss of Death (total 75%). You also have EoS- allows to use second opener on target as well. Or EoS followed by Shadow Leap, to help catching fleeing target.

What Renown Points should be using with this setup?
Depends if you want to go defensive or offensive. Defensive is toughness + likely regen, offensive likely str if you need it for softcap then ws. Also you likely want Quick Escape 1. Back when I actively played WE I played it hybrid between defensive and offensive, so would go str + toughness + Quick Escape 1, and with this setup city dagger with armor debuff proc + city dagger with 10% snare on being hit proc.
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Re: [WE]What to run at 75+ ?

Post#10 » Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:18 pm

Make Witch Elf great again, bring back 9 AoE slice.
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