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Pahakukka
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Virtually undefendable

Post#1 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:07 pm

Hello,
Flame's kiss tactic tooltip is getting fixed to say "virtually undefendable" similar to Burn Through.

Does anyone know what this means for real?Is it like 100%strikethro versus defenses (max to half of the value defender has)?

Im curious, as it seems a bit expensive choice for magiis to spent tactic to get 2 abilities to still getting blocked at about 25-30%rate. And how does it work versus stuff like shroud of magnus and similar disrupt/block boosts that raise the defense value to 100 (or autoblock)
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Re: Virtually undefendable

Post#2 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:57 pm

Pahakukka wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:07 pm Hello,
Flame's kiss tactic tooltip is getting fixed to say "virtually undefendable" similar to Burn Through.

Does anyone know what this means for real?Is it like 100%strikethro versus defenses (max to half of the value defender has)?

Im curious, as it seems a bit expensive choice for magiis to spent tactic to get 2 abilities to still getting blocked at about 25-30%rate. And how does it work versus stuff like shroud of magnus and similar disrupt/block boosts that raise the defense value to 100 (or autoblock)

Taking a look at the ability database, I believe it just provides 100% strikethrough (block and disrupt):
https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/8507
On the other hand, Shroud of Magnus should provide 100% disrupt AND spell immunity:
https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/8108

vs other stuff that don't provide immunity like Oathstone (https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/1382) I'd imagine it just does a standard strikethrough calculation.

E.g:
30% Block IB + active Oathstone vs 5% Block strikethrough Magus + Flame's Kiss tactic
Defender's total block% = 30% + 100% = 130%
Attacker's strikethrough% = 5% + 100% = 105%, more than half of block% --> softcapped
Chance to fail block check = 130% - 130%/2 = 65%
and therefore, chance to pass block check = 100 - 65 = 35%
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Re: Virtually undefendable

Post#3 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:08 pm

Thanks!
Was afraid so, shame i was looking forward to have some counter to snb soloroamers. But this will be too expensive for the gain.
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