Knight dps

[havartii]

Is there a reason why Knight has no dps spec? Seems like the Chosen is quite dangerous yet knight hits like a wet noodle. Please discuss.

[Sinisterror]

Yes. Because RoR removed and nerfed everything that made Kotbs very nice and fun class to play. Like Core lvl 15 240ws/str/ini. Or lvl 39 core Destroy Confidence. Cant spec for Mighty Soul anymore either and have this kind of results with Mighty Soul + Destroy Confidence

https://imgur.com/a/when-destroy-confid ... -d-ViWFmqI

Btw if no one has noticed Kotbs is the only class that has Shatter not as a core skill, but path of glory skill which is because Mighty soul converts Glory skills all to Elemental dmg making Shatter super powerful if using 2 tactics.

Edit: https://imgur.com/a/lets-get-back-to-wa ... ow-r9VENra

You can see Powerful gear that existed in the game, Like Kotbs getting rr38 influence wpn with Boost V Proc

[Farrul]

There are SnB specs that do similar or more dps than Kotbs 2H, tragic but true.

Note how every other 2h tank has an ability to increase parry ( which is crucial to 2H tank def) but Kotbs lacks one, with the INI->WS their Runefang was super nerfed.

[Shima]

Yes. Because RoR removed and nerfed everything that made Kotbs very nice and fun class to play.

And I used to play as ktobs and wl on Order. Both classes killed by dev team.

[sharpblader]

Interestingly, Conquest, the knight "2h/damage" tree is primarily physical damage. Out of all the other tanks that do physical damage, Knight is the only one that does not have a baseline armor reducing ability.

One of the reasons why BO, BG and IB can irk out more damage is because their armor reducer ability stacks with their M1.

[Dackjanielz]

Knight doesn't need dps - he has glorious defence and utility.

He's a fantastic tank, Chosen is the dps brother if you wanna kill stuff.

[Sulorie]

Knight doesn't need dps - he has glorious defence and utility.

He's a fantastic tank, Chosen is the dps brother if you wanna kill stuff.

A Chosen is a selfish Knight, indeed. Less group utility but better suited for out of group play.

[Sinisterror]

Chosen getting Daemonclaw + 15% Crit and Relentless Spirit dmg is just so big of FUDGE YOU to All kotbs who played the class when it was fun not just effective(Bring back twister so at least u have to use auras) Vigilance only with shield wtf and Oppression Needs shield? Why? Give us Crippling Strikes!

Mighty Soul tactic that makes all glory path skills elemental dmg is gone. Runefang is bad and chosen gets one WHY? And Core Destroy Confidence lvl 39 is gone. Mighty Soul with Destroy Confidence made Kotbs, Kotbs has almost double dmg compared other tanks purge/Shatters skills and is on Glory path not core because of mighty soul making kotbs terrifying

65ft Shatter that hits 4 times if you remove 3 enchantments/blessings. Capable of critting as well! https://imgur.com/a/when-destroy-confid ... -d-ViWFmqI

2800 dmg from one Shatter Critting 2 out of 4 times from 65ft is maybe a bit too much but rather that than what kotbs is today. So passive and dull

[TrainInVain]

There are SnB specs that do similar or more dps than Kotbs 2H, tragic but true.

Note how every other 2h tank has an ability to increase parry ( which is crucial to 2H tank def) but Kotbs lacks one, with the INI->WS their Runefang was super nerfed.

ehatThere are SnB specs that do similar or more dps than Kotbs 2H, tragic but true.

what is the kobs shield spec and or gear to do more dps?

[Vaikaris]

Because Knights were too strong. You can't be one of the best tanks, one of the most useful debuffers, one of the classes with the best utility AND do great damage.

So it was correct to add some balance.

Unfortunately they removed virtually every single thing that made damage viable, like, EVERYTHING.

I gotta defend the RoR devs here - even with all of that taken out, you can totally run a 2H knight and be possibly more useful than most 2H tanks. It's just so stacked on buffs, debuffs, great CC. So obviously they were right to balance it.

The part where I think they got it wrong is leaving KOTBS with the same kit on almost every specc. It's just a tanky buffer/debuffer. You go for the KD and all you choose is either a damage reduction skill usable with a shield or a damage increasing on enemies skill usable with a greatsword. It's poor choice.

Anyway, yeh, knights are very weak for damage but I wouldn't count on anything adressing the issue because they're still totally viable. Very unfun though.