Proposal to remove all barriers from scenarios

[Everdin]

Spoiler:

Did not say to remove premades. This is about getting rid of the barriers, and putting the guards back the way Mythic had them, in scenarios. Time has come to stop letting the dominating side driving people out of the game.

people can get confused here, cause you are talking a lot about premades

Fair enough, I am quite worried about the dead silence of the devs on this topic.

Somebody wanted the barriers, most of people don't want them, there are two things to say from devs:

- Sorry, person xyz wanted the barriers and so we added them and don't remove them cause this guy is more important then you plebs
- Sorry, we thought it would be a good idea but we were wrong, we remove them

If it's the first, well there is no way to say this without escalating, if the second point they could have already done it.

Very accurate. Majority are against of it, even those that don’t care about barriers have been claiming to place guards were they used to be at least.
A thread was made by team asking community “how to improve scenarios”, a place where, again, the majority of posts were about to remove barriers and move guards back where they used to be. Yet we have been completely ignored.
Dragon’s Bane, still, is a clear example on how scenarios used to be, pure fight the whole time and mechanic of comebacks working perfectly due to guards being placed where they should be. No buffs needed nor the necessity of doing a surrender, no slaughter fiesta.

Even groups that benefits from it raised their voice against it

[Paxsanarion]

Please remove the barriers in scenarios and put the guards back on duty.

[Hellforce]

In the early live versions of the game none of the scenarios had the barriers over the spawn and guards were positioned slightly forward of where they are now in many scenarios compared to what we have on RoR. What this allowed was that even if you were getting farmed by a premade or two there was always the chance that if they were daft enough and came too close you could punt one into guards or at least build morale before engaging in combat. The better team had the choice of take this risk or do the objective. If they did the objective then the weaker side had a chance to get a kill as in many you would need to split.

The most recent addition of barriers especially in serpents passage has now meant that once the initial fight occurs and one side loses the other side can just camp the barrier and farm whoever comes out of it. The people inside the barrier have the choice of get quitter or wait 80ish seconds to walk out and die.

Whilst I get that for a premade wanting to kill a known enemy its super frustrating seeing them retreat into a safe place the penalty for stopping this is that the average person who solo queues or even less organised groups now have an even more horrible scenario experience than they did before.

The suggestion therefore is to remove all barriers in normal scenarios, put guards at exits to allow a place to regroup effectively and hide when out matched.

In ranked, clearly all barriers can be there and no guards as that is way more organised then typical pug scens.

100% Agree with you!! Barriers should be removed so it will be the only chance for the losing team to attack back and hopefully scenarios will stop being a torture that either you getting farmed or either get the quitter!!

[Martok]

Time has come to stop letting the dominating side driving people out of the game.

Yeah good luck with that.

[Martok]

Fair enough, I am quite worried about the dead silence of the devs on this topic.

I have questioned that myself. This topic has generated much discussion and debate, but with one exception I have yet to see any response from those who thought up and implemented the changes. Seems odd the question of why this barrier mechanic was instituted is so hard to answer.

[Everdin]

Fair enough, I am quite worried about the dead silence of the devs on this topic.

I have questioned that myself. This topic has generated much discussion and debate, but with one exception I have yet to see any response from those who thought up and implemented the changes. Seems odd the question of why this barrier mechanic was instituted is so hard to answer.

Already wrote my opinion, it is hard to answer, these changes were not for all, players of all taste hate it, but holding it with Orwell "All Animals Are Equal but Some Animals Are More Equal Than Others"

[Fimbar]

I don't like the barriers.
But I'm unbothered since the matchmaking system already drove me out of that content.

[Fenris78]

Non-functioning MM system already made SCs an horrible experience, where weekend warfront is still a premade farmfest, effectively throwing most people away from this content.

Nobody on their right mind want to be in a team with zero healers and 75% DPS, against 2/2/2 premades all the time. The eternal argument of "you just need to form a balanced premade" wont work when you just cannot find 2 healers for your sc party...

Barriers now are the nail in the coffin, with this abomination you will ensure nobody will play scenarios ever again.

Congratulation, now regular scenarios are alsmost as dead as ranked mode is.

[Everdin]

Non-functioning MM system already made SCs an horrible experience, where weekend warfront is still a premade farmfest, effectively throwing most people away from this content.

Nobody on their right mind want to be in a team with zero healers and 75% DPS, against 2/2/2 premades all the time. The eternal argument of "you just need to form a balanced premade" wont work when you just cannot find 2 healers for your sc party...

Barriers now are the nail in the coffin, with this abomination you will ensure nobody will play scenarios ever again.

Congratulation, now regular scenarios are alsmost as dead as ranked mode is.

While I also think barriers driving one of the biggest nails to the coffin in a long time, the frequenzy of regularly sc are not affected, eu prime time they pop good, and outside of it there weren't so much pops before. But the mode is not more dead then before.

[Nameless]

I have like 3 healers leveled up till 80+ mainly from scens being solo or in group. I like doing scens, now i stopped queu everything beside discordand. I doubt i am the only one so these changes lower the queu pool.