Most fun dps class to sc 1-39?

[Akalukz]

Fun? Dps Zealot.
Amount of tears you will get from your own realm is underpriced.

[TomSeas]

Fun? Dps Zealot.
Amount of tears you will get from your own realm is underpriced.

How is it fun? I rmember trying RP dps and the damage was abysmal while leveling.

[githappens]

Fun? Dps Zealot.
Amount of tears you will get from your own realm is underpriced.

How is it fun? I rmember trying RP dps and the damage was abysmal while leveling.

Damage is bellow average, it's more utility than real dps. Has great debuffing (AoE armor/corp debuff on Demon Spittle, ST armor & all resists on M1), can spam 50% heal debuff with tactic and do some minor healing while dealing ST damage if you go Witchcraft heavy. Can also go more AoE with Dark Rites, but that sucks without CF from Choppa, yet Wind of Insanity is ultimate trolling tool.

However the most enjoyable part of whole act will be whining of your team.

It's more about fun than power.

[Detangler]

Fun? Dps Zealot.
Amount of tears you will get from your own realm is underpriced.

How is it fun? I rmember trying RP dps and the damage was abysmal while leveling.

Damage is bellow average, it's more utility than real dps. Has great debuffing (AoE armor/corp debuff on Demon Spittle, ST armor & all resists on M1), can spam 50% heal debuff with tactic and do some minor healing while dealing ST damage if you go Witchcraft heavy. Can also go more AoE with Dark Rites, but that sucks without CF from Choppa, yet Wind of Insanity is ultimate trolling tool.

However the most enjoyable part of whole act will be whining of your team.

It's more about fun than power.

The aoe armor/corp debuff you can do as a heal spec just fine, same with m1.

You need high crit gear to reliably spam 50% heal debuff which does not exist in low tier gear. You have to just hope your target doesn't take futile strikes. Oh also it works single target only.

Winds of Insanity is very situational at best. Better to get the 6 second insta stagger so you can stop a freecasting healer in the back line.

Please please don't try going full DPS spec as a Zealot. Feel free to occasionally turn on harbinger and cast a couple DD spells to help finish off a target when your allies are all topped off - that can work quite well and can be a lot of fun. But DPS zealot in current state is probably the worst by far out of all 12 classes on destro side for doing damage.

[githappens]

How is it fun? I rmember trying RP dps and the damage was abysmal while leveling.

Damage is bellow average, it's more utility than real dps. Has great debuffing (AoE armor/corp debuff on Demon Spittle, ST armor & all resists on M1), can spam 50% heal debuff with tactic and do some minor healing while dealing ST damage if you go Witchcraft heavy. Can also go more AoE with Dark Rites, but that sucks without CF from Choppa, yet Wind of Insanity is ultimate trolling tool.

However the most enjoyable part of whole act will be whining of your team.

It's more about fun than power.

The aoe armor/corp debuff you can do as a heal spec just fine, same with m1.

You need high crit gear to reliably spam 50% heal debuff which does not exist in low tier gear. You have to just hope your target doesn't take futile strikes. Oh also it works single target only.

Winds of Insanity is very situational at best. Better to get the 6 second insta stagger so you can stop a freecasting healer in the back line.

Please please don't try going full DPS spec as a Zealot. Feel free to occasionally turn on harbinger and cast a couple DD spells to help finish off a target when your allies are all topped off - that can work quite well and can be a lot of fun. But DPS zealot in current state is probably the worst by far out of all 12 classes on destro side for doing damage.

Base chance to be crit in 1-39 is high on average, especially when you got 15% crit chance on Scrouge on your Chaotic Force tactic and you will Scrouge alot due to instant cast procs coming from Scrouged Warping. Won't even comment on average people dumping everything into Futile Stikes, because even on cr40 average players don't do that.

I had to convince people on those forums (from TUP, lol) that healing ritual with changes > AP ritual, that morale pump best tactic with Windblock, or that Wind of Insanity is extremly powerful and later two of them got their own QQ topics. While I won't convince you that DPS Zealot is better than Sorc, Magus or rSH, because that simply wouldn't be true, I believe it can be fun for those who seek challenge and unique playstyle.

I'd like to note I've outdpsed average WL and Slayers on dps RP in the past in City Sieges (despite them gaining alot more damage due to aoe armor debuff). I bet I could outdps average Choppas and Marauders on Zealot. Sadly they rest in peace, so we won't know... but technicaly Zealot has higher potential due to how CF can outpeform WW (1:1).

[Phantasm]

Damage is bellow average, it's more utility than real dps. Has great debuffing (AoE armor/corp debuff on Demon Spittle, ST armor & all resists on M1), can spam 50% heal debuff with tactic and do some minor healing while dealing ST damage if you go Witchcraft heavy. Can also go more AoE with Dark Rites, but that sucks without CF from Choppa, yet Wind of Insanity is ultimate trolling tool.

However the most enjoyable part of whole act will be whining of your team.

It's more about fun than power.

The problem with utility classes is that there must be competent players who know what you are doing and can take advantage of that. You won't find this in solo queue scenarios, especially in the rank 1 - 39 brackets. That means you need to be in a premade. And here's the point: ANY class played within a premade is fun when that premade is winning.

But what shocks me the most is that you seem to seek fun in creeping and trolling your own team. Your words and advice can be taken by new players and make them the scapegoats for any failures of the team in scenarios. Great advice! Make more troll characters in tier 4 and keep wondering why most people don't want to solo queue but seek proper players by joining and creating premades.

What's the class you like playing the most while leveling 1-39 in scs? Specifically dps (or dps tanks) since tanks/healers are a bit more passive and can't score kills as easily.

When I last played a year ago I found these to be super fun:
Engi with dot build as you could melt teams as soon as you had some decent gear and talis
SM because of a near 25% speed boost and then you'd get the heal debuff
AM/Sham are classic favorites

Those 3 could get decent builds online at certain level thresholds so you'd have things to look forward to at all times.

Having fun is a highly subjective matter, as mentioned in the quote above. I believe the key is to determine what you're aiming for. Do you want to achieve the highest damage output in scenarios? Are you looking to assist others in dominating the scenario, perhaps by playing as an offensive tank with effective crowd control, serving as the main DPS caller in a group, or even leading a pickup group scenario if you can effectively communicate your role as the main assist and inspire others to focus on the right targets?
Its all up to you.

For me, the most fun I've had is when I played as a tank and helped my team win, even when facing premades or pickup groups. There's genuine satisfaction in carrying new players to victory by clearing the path for them, applying the right crowd control to unleash their potential, and at the same time ensuring that our healers aren't left alone to fend for themselves.

[Alucard2010]

I've level up quite a few classes to 40 and I can honestly say WL was the most OP. Stuff just melts in single target build w/ leonine + forced op + cord strikes

[Detangler]

Damage is bellow average, it's more utility than real dps. Has great debuffing (AoE armor/corp debuff on Demon Spittle, ST armor & all resists on M1), can spam 50% heal debuff with tactic and do some minor healing while dealing ST damage if you go Witchcraft heavy. Can also go more AoE with Dark Rites, but that sucks without CF from Choppa, yet Wind of Insanity is ultimate trolling tool.

However the most enjoyable part of whole act will be whining of your team.

It's more about fun than power.

The aoe armor/corp debuff you can do as a heal spec just fine, same with m1.

You need high crit gear to reliably spam 50% heal debuff which does not exist in low tier gear. You have to just hope your target doesn't take futile strikes. Oh also it works single target only.

Winds of Insanity is very situational at best. Better to get the 6 second insta stagger so you can stop a freecasting healer in the back line.

Please please don't try going full DPS spec as a Zealot. Feel free to occasionally turn on harbinger and cast a couple DD spells to help finish off a target when your allies are all topped off - that can work quite well and can be a lot of fun. But DPS zealot in current state is probably the worst by far out of all 12 classes on destro side for doing damage.

Base chance to be crit in 1-39 is high on average, especially when you got 15% crit chance on Scrouge on your Chaotic Force tactic and you will Scrouge alot due to instant cast procs coming from Scrouged Warping. Won't even comment on average people dumping everything into Futile Stikes, because even on cr40 average players don't do that.

I had to convince people on those forums (from TUP, lol) that healing ritual with changes > AP ritual, that morale pump best tactic with Windblock, or that Wind of Insanity is extremly powerful and later two of them got their own QQ topics. While I won't convince you that DPS Zealot is better than Sorc, Magus or rSH, because that simply wouldn't be true, I believe it can be fun for those who seek challenge and unique playstyle.

I'd like to note I've outdpsed average WL and Slayers on dps RP in the past in City Sieges (despite them gaining alot more damage due to aoe armor debuff). I bet I could outdps average Choppas and Marauders on Zealot. Sadly they rest in peace, so we won't know... but technicaly Zealot has higher potential due to how CF can outpeform WW (1:1).

- DPS dok has the same 50% heal debuff on crit but much much higher single target damage potential.

- DPS zealot has the worst single target damage of any dps spec class in the game.

- Scourged Warping is barely useful - 10% increased damage on a dot and the chance to turn single target casted 2 second spell into a 1.5 second GCD capped insta DD. Good for attacking people on the run if it procs, but barely increases your DPS overall.

- Healing ritual changes were years ago. I'm glad you claim you were one of the first to realize that one ritual was FAR superior to the other two options. Anyone that didnt immediately realize that a ritual that gives
1. a steady heal,
2. 25% chance to add absorb shield (w tactic),
3. AP regen on heal crit (w tactic), and
4. 25% heal increase on crit (w tactic)
was laughably stronger than a ritual that gives a 20% chance for some AP on ability use... well, they aren't too bright.

-DPS Rune Priest has the ability to pump large fluff damage numbers that DPS Zealot can never reach because of 50% area increase for Rune of Battle (a far superior AoE fire and forget ability castable on a target from up to 150 (!!) feet away vs. Zealot channeled 80 ft AoE) and their frontal cone 9 sec dot. Yes, you can see lots and lots of damage numbers, but a lot of those targets you are hitting will be well outside the killzone of the actual damage dealing classes securing the kills. So yes, it will be lots of fluff damage inflating your numbers. Thats great that your overall damage was higher than some conq gear WL/Slayers. Was the "damage contributed to kills" also higher?

Seriously, go spend some time attacking a target dummy and see how long it takes you to kill something vs. any other DPS spec class. To original OP - DPS zealot has it the worst of all classes for a DPS spec. Please pick literally any other of the 23 classes. Yes, even 2h knight.

[Avernus]

Please please don't try going full DPS spec as a Zealot. Feel free to occasionally turn on harbinger and cast a couple DD spells to help finish off a target when your allies are all topped off - that can work quite well and can be a lot of fun. But DPS zealot in current state is probably the worst by far out of all 12 classes on destro side for doing damage.

You underestimate the power of dps zealot. The amount of kills they can get can be quite impressive. Just don't forget that most of this kills will be from his own team's deaths.

On a more serious note, there is a great tool to help you in situations like this - enemy marks. Just place some brown mark on a guy like this - and you can see this people from mile away. All/most of your sc healers are marked? Just defend your respawn, let them handle things yourself.

[F4llen4ngel]

What's the class you like playing the most while leveling 1-39 in scs? Specifically dps (or dps tanks) since tanks/healers are a bit more passive and can't score kills as easily.

When I last played a year ago I found these to be super fun:
Engi with dot build as you could melt teams as soon as you had some decent gear and talis
SM because of a near 25% speed boost and then you'd get the heal debuff
AM/Sham are classic favorites

Those 3 could get decent builds online at certain level thresholds so you'd have things to look forward to at all times.

I just finished 2H SM (not SW) (Bicskasm) and it felt OP all the way. I was even messagaed: "Thanks for ruining midtier scs with your premade" and I was soloqueuing all the time except for one single scenario the previous night.

Only thing seemed important to use max talismans and gear to enjoy bolster the most.