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Garamore
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#21 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:40 pm

That revolutionises his point, 6/90ish is so different to 11/90ish - another outstanding forum contribution.

Lots of people are playing order casual for the rr and crest train (got 82 crests from a pve fort with less than 5 kills and can complete the weekly in a few hours of pvdoor) then logging/xrealming to destro in EU primetime to then log/head back after.

Its human nature to pick the easiest path to the things you want and this has become the pattern.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#22 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:06 pm

destro need na time zone wb leader. and its will do miracle. its hard work to lead byt someone need to do it.
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JohnnyWayne
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#23 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:36 pm

Garamore wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:40 pm That revolutionises his point, 6/90ish is so different to 11/90ish - another outstanding forum contribution.

Lots of people are playing order casual for the rr and crest train (got 82 crests from a pve fort with less than 5 kills and can complete the weekly in a few hours of pvdoor) then logging/xrealming to destro in EU primetime to then log/head back after.

Its human nature to pick the easiest path to the things you want and this has become the pattern.
If you try to argue, you better be right or you ll be sorry. The only time when order actually wins over destro is in off prime times as there are more organised wbs around. See other thread.

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#24 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:12 pm

When desto is being farmed at WC/spawn then you want to blame someone's else than the guys getting farmed? It's a choice to pick the same exit all the time.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#25 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:57 pm

JohnnyWayne wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:36 pm
Garamore wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:40 pm That revolutionises his point, 6/90ish is so different to 11/90ish - another outstanding forum contribution.

Lots of people are playing order casual for the rr and crest train (got 82 crests from a pve fort with less than 5 kills and can complete the weekly in a few hours of pvdoor) then logging/xrealming to destro in EU primetime to then log/head back after.

Its human nature to pick the easiest path to the things you want and this has become the pattern.
If you try to argue, you better be right or you ll be sorry. The only time when order actually wins over destro is in off prime times as there are more organised wbs around. See other thread.
You trying to tell us there is a massive Destro blob that sweeps in between 19-23 server time and locks an incredible number of forts and zones? Or is it more of a stalemate that ends in one locked zone by destro?

nocturnalguest
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#26 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:43 pm

Garamore wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:40 pm ...
can complete the weekly in a few hours of pvdoor
...
Its actually way faster being underdog then pvdoor

JohnnyWayne
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#27 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:01 pm

Rapzel wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:57 pm
JohnnyWayne wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:36 pm
Garamore wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:40 pm That revolutionises his point, 6/90ish is so different to 11/90ish - another outstanding forum contribution.

Lots of people are playing order casual for the rr and crest train (got 82 crests from a pve fort with less than 5 kills and can complete the weekly in a few hours of pvdoor) then logging/xrealming to destro in EU primetime to then log/head back after.

Its human nature to pick the easiest path to the things you want and this has become the pattern.
If you try to argue, you better be right or you ll be sorry. The only time when order actually wins over destro is in off prime times as there are more organised wbs around. See other thread.
You trying to tell us there is a massive Destro blob that sweeps in between 19-23 server time and locks an incredible number of forts and zones? Or is it more of a stalemate that ends in one locked zone by destro?
Its the second. Off time, order is more organised due to NA guilds and the lack of em on destro. Thats where the fort wins come from.

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#28 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:56 pm

nocturnalguest wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:43 pm
Garamore wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:40 pm ...
can complete the weekly in a few hours of pvdoor
...
Its actually way faster being underdog then pvdoor
Yup. Sneaking BOs and destroying supplies you can get your weekly done in an hour with some sweet AAO bonuses. Too bad its incredibly boring.

4 things to fix this:

1- NA destro needs regular good WB leaders.

2- AAO and malus need to ramp up faster. Massively decrease rewards for empty keeps/forts. (edited cause I finally remembered)

3- Realm switching cooldowns should be turned off when population gets low enough so players can even it out.

4- Give us a window showing # of scenarios active, players in queue, and class types queueing just like for ranked. RvR could be trash but scenarios could be popping. More info for player to find decent fights.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#29 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:17 am

normanis wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:06 pm destro need na time zone wb leader. and its will do miracle. its hard work to lead byt someone need to do it.
People have stepped up from time to time over the years but they quickly get sick of how quickly NA destro players give up.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#30 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:47 am

Detangler wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:56 pm
nocturnalguest wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:43 pm
Garamore wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:40 pm ...
can complete the weekly in a few hours of pvdoor
...
Its actually way faster being underdog then pvdoor
Yup. Sneaking BOs and destroying supplies you can get your weekly done in an hour with some sweet AAO bonuses. Too bad its incredibly boring.

4 things to fix this:

1- NA destro needs regular good WB leaders.

2- AAO whatever the opposite is called need to ramp up faster. Massively decrease rewards for empty keeps/forts.

3- Realm switching cooldowns should be turned off when population gets low enough so players can even it out.

4- Give us a window showing # of scenarios active, players in queue, and class types queueing just like for ranked. RvR could be trash but scenarios could be popping. More info for player to find decent fights.

Love this feedback. Would be great to hear some dev input. I wonder if they have any Q&A or if this has been brought up before with the transcript.

I don't play EU (I should have stated this earlier) but my issue is geared towards NA playtime.

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