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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#271 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:20 pm

Few days off and THIS jumps on me ?
Whow.
Keep the work devs!
I wonder what the spicy future brings us :mrgreen:
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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#272 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:40 am

Just wanted to be clear, I got it wrong, PB change to Maras is in line with similar changes across all classes. That's precisely the type of change that can shake up a meta and I'm all for it. Only concern would be it could harm kill-time which in a heavily def oriented meta, feels like a change in the wrong direction, everyone will be tankier, but maybe that will help RDPS. Who knows, but I'm reserving judgement until the bigger picture is visible.
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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#273 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:56 pm

Feels that just made the game more boring with all those changes.

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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#274 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:25 pm

Korsario wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:56 pm Feels that just made the game more boring with all those changes.
Temporary changes only.
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Re: The Ability System Rewrite & Provisional Patch Notes

Post#275 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:21 pm

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Bug Fixes

- Spellbreaker - Doesn’t remove morale absorb effects anymore.
That is not a bugfix - but rather a balance change. It used to work like that. And it was even spammable due to a lower cd in the original iteration of this skill.
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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#276 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:46 pm

In what universe should a normal ability trump a morale ability? The opposite should be true in every case. I know we've nerfed Morales into the ground, but surely Morales should out-perform regular abilities.
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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#277 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:09 am

Fey wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:46 pm In what universe should a normal ability trump a morale ability? The opposite should be true in every case. I know we've nerfed Morales into the ground, but surely Morales should out-perform regular abilities.
Sigh..... rampage?

I'm sorry for mentioning this, because it's only going to send this discussion in one direction.
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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#278 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:18 am

Detangler wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:09 am
Fey wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:46 pm In what universe should a normal ability trump a morale ability? The opposite should be true in every case. I know we've nerfed Morales into the ground, but surely Morales should out-perform regular abilities.
Sigh..... rampage?

I'm sorry for mentioning this, because it's only going to send this discussion in one direction.
Nope. Rampage makes the attacks undefendable. No amount of block and parry will let you block or parry an attack that cannot be blocked or parried.
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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#279 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:59 am

Omegus wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:18 am
Detangler wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:09 am
Fey wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:46 pm In what universe should a normal ability trump a morale ability? The opposite should be true in every case. I know we've nerfed Morales into the ground, but surely Morales should out-perform regular abilities.
Sigh..... rampage?

I'm sorry for mentioning this, because it's only going to send this discussion in one direction.
Nope. Rampage makes the attacks undefendable. No amount of block and parry will let you block or parry an attack that cannot be blocked or parried.
Fey asked what abilities trump Morales- rampage trumps Morales that give block/parry.
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Re: The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

Post#280 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:06 am

Detangler wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:59 am
Omegus wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:18 am
Detangler wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:09 am

Sigh..... rampage?

I'm sorry for mentioning this, because it's only going to send this discussion in one direction.
Nope. Rampage makes the attacks undefendable. No amount of block and parry will let you block or parry an attack that cannot be blocked or parried.
Fey asked what abilities trump Morales- rampage trumps Morales that give block/parry.
Red Tipped Arrer, VON Fester, FO, Cutting Claw, Snipe, BoC all ignore morale as well so its not like its just a slayer thing.
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