Pock, Raker and Seesers

[Zxul]

As a side note, reacting to Zxul's example: I thought I had heard that thorns spec weren't as effective anymore?

what kobs thorn spec? what?

There is an icd on think OYG aura or SotS, but from running into kotbs with the spec it still hurts fine.

For example something like that:

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,8059,8043

Vs WE, combination of high toughness +parry+absorb insures WE's hits don't hurt all that much. +resists aura vs WE corp dmg skills like WB. From other hand, combination of OYG and SotS with the two tactics insures that each time WE attacks it takes back more dmg than what it deals, with extra bonus of WE being a fast attacking class cause of dual wield. Thats while also taking dmg from kotb attacks + dmg aura on top. From experience, only thing you can do as WE is jump stagger and go away, if you try and fight no way you can survive.

As a sorc, you have to deal with a combination of high toughness (your staff attacks will trigger Runefang btw) +high resists+ absorb on top. This is what it looks like:



Thats while taking 750 backlash unmitigated dmg every third cast, while also taking SotS dmg + dmg aura, +dmg of kotb. As an extra bonus, you don't have WE's stagger+ stealth.

[Rubius]

But generally, if you list a class or specific build you find remarkably hard to beat, someone can probably write out a counter for it on the other side to help.

Haha sure. Turtle regen kotb in thorns spec, as a WE or sorc. 1v1, escaping isn't allowed.

Game is not, and has never been, balanced solely around 1v1. Some classes and builds definitely excel more in 1v1 situations than others.

As an example though, I think a DPS shaman would likely have no problem killing this build. Kite, heal, slowly drain it down and finish it off. Same goes for DPS DoK and maybe even Zealot.

No matter the build / class, there's almost always a build that can counter it out there somewhere.