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Omegus
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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#211 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:17 pm

Not done LOTD in a long time, but I wonder if order has been trying to replicate the FMJ+zerg blob without realising that the FMJ+zerg blob "worked" because there were enough destro ignoring it completely and instead were ensuring objectives were capped/re-capped, NPC patrols were dealt with, etc, while order got distracted by the big red ball and raged.

I was in one of the WBs playing the objective game and I think everyone in that WB would admit that at times it was a bit dull, but focusing on the objectives and calling out captures/movement in region chat got the job done while Brogun lead a big blob up to the order area. If all of destro had followed that blob, destro would've lost LOTD.
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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#212 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:26 pm

Garamore wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:07 pm The reason is on the 2 order win they cap bo’s and the 8 they lose they run in one giant meatball.
causality - cause and effect. If order isn't able to kill the HoB zerg (cause) they are sticking together (effect)

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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#213 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:31 pm

Omegus wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:17 pm I was in one of the WBs playing the objective game and I think everyone in that WB would admit that at times it was a bit dull, but focusing on the objectives and calling out captures/movement in region chat got the job done while Brogun lead a big blob up to the order area. If all of destro had followed that blob, destro would've lost LOTD.
With an almost 2:1 kill ratio for destro they wouldn't have lost, no matter what. Destro pushed Order all the way to their warcamp and even there they weren't able to push back.

You can have the best strategy of all... if you can't hold and can't kill you won't win.

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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#214 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:37 pm

By then though it was over and a lot of order had left to pve a keep. Earlier kills are pretty even.
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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#215 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:00 pm

JohnnyWayne wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:27 pm Fits perfectly, as destro seem to enjoy the PvE game in lotd. So everyone was doing PvE at that point. Mission accomplished devs.
seems work as intend. 1 side pve lotd ather side pve rvr. seems good for future when in ror titles says war is ewrhywhere. yes its ewhrewhere byt its not war its pve.
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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#216 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:36 pm

normanis wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:00 pm
JohnnyWayne wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:27 pm Fits perfectly, as destro seem to enjoy the PvE game in lotd. So everyone was doing PvE at that point. Mission accomplished devs.
seems work as intend. 1 side pve lotd ather side pve rvr. seems good for future when in ror titles says war is ewrhywhere. yes its ewhrewhere byt its not war its pve.
Do you guys also disparage players for capping BOs and running flags in scenarios?

Seriously, I challenge you next time to leave the safety of the zerg and lead/join a 6-12 man to take BOs. You'll actually run into a lot of enemies in small scale fights that actually will test skill and tactics. A lot more than you realize.

Is it the nonstop "excitement" of spamming three AOE buttons for 2 hours and rolling in the renown 20 rp ticks at a time? No, but its a lot more memorable than "we have numbers so we win!"
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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#217 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:42 pm

Detangler wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:36 pm
normanis wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:00 pm
JohnnyWayne wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:27 pm Fits perfectly, as destro seem to enjoy the PvE game in lotd. So everyone was doing PvE at that point. Mission accomplished devs.
seems work as intend. 1 side pve lotd ather side pve rvr. seems good for future when in ror titles says war is ewrhywhere. yes its ewhrewhere byt its not war its pve.
Do you guys also disparage players for capping BOs and running flags in scenarios?

Seriously, I challenge you next time to leave the safety of the zerg and lead/join a 6-12 man to take BOs. You'll actually run into a lot of enemies in small scale fights that actually will test skill and tactics. A lot more than you realize.

Is it the nonstop "excitement" of spamming three AOE buttons for 2 hours and rolling in the renown 20 rp ticks at a time? No, but its a lot more memorable than "we have numbers so we win!"
hm why than destro top guilds blob?
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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#218 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:43 pm

Asderas27 wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:00 am Ninjagon still whining about lotd losses lmao.
Classic Bene Tlielax move
didnt seen tup there on top kills
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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#219 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:52 pm

normanis wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:42 pm
Detangler wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:36 pm
normanis wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:00 pm
seems work as intend. 1 side pve lotd ather side pve rvr. seems good for future when in ror titles says war is ewrhywhere. yes its ewhrewhere byt its not war its pve.
Do you guys also disparage players for capping BOs and running flags in scenarios?

Seriously, I challenge you next time to leave the safety of the zerg and lead/join a 6-12 man to take BOs. You'll actually run into a lot of enemies in small scale fights that actually will test skill and tactics. A lot more than you realize.

Is it the nonstop "excitement" of spamming three AOE buttons for 2 hours and rolling in the renown 20 rp ticks at a time? No, but its a lot more memorable than "we have numbers so we win!"
hm why than destro top guilds blob?
A strange pivot and distraction from everything I just said. Okay....

To respond, the largest/top guilds have a lot of members, so it makes sense that they would want all their members and take their 24 man's to fight other large fights. Taking a full WB to the outskirts is a waste of manpower, so go hold the middle and fight the enemy blob. That's kinda how it works on both sides.

You have nothing to counter what I said to you. You claim it's PvE mode to go cap and back cap objectives, yet it seems you've never actually done it. Go try it next time. Maybe you'll find something new and exciting.
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Re: LOTD balance anyone?

Post#220 » Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:10 pm

Again cos of pulling meta and lack of some defencing tools from live orders small scale is quite harder and punishing so orders small scale heroes gravitate near the zerg to have some save ground. Mara and choppas pulls are whatever on equal numbers but when outnumbered they are death sentence so ppl do zerg surfing esp on orders side
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