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Luth
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#151 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:41 am

Ah, i see. I remember it was changed in some patch to be single target only.
Some WL players didn't like it. I favoured the single target change, so you couldn't break AOE staggers with it anymore.

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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#152 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:33 pm

Luth wrote:I remember, that one of the later mythic devs (i think it was keaven freeman) wrote somewhere, that when the 1.4.9 pounce works 100% reliable, the next step would be giving it a slight cooldown.
Maybe with a cooldown, the AP increase would be too much (WL is already AP starving).

I think a short cooldown would be perfect/best solution.
yea i remember that part most ppl suggest if it get fix to not leave it spamm able.

It was suggested a 5-10 sec coldown, but most ppl asked for a 5 sec cos wl was an underpowered class so a 10sec KD on the pounce was too much, i'm also for not allow wl to pounce in the air (you are a melee not a magician) and also 5 sec KD would be required just to make the classes less clown ..... jump with no kd is wrong and ugly to see


Btw why change now a lv 40 skill?? long way to t4 we have time :/
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#153 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:38 pm

Tesq wrote:
Btw why change now a lv 40 skill?? long way to t4 we have time :/
Pounce is lvl 21 mastery spec. Fetch is the lvl40 for wl.
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#154 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:39 pm

Pounce is 21, fetch is 40 :)
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wl; ... ;;;0:0:0:0:
My opinion is that a 10 second CD would do it, but would need to be tested nonetheless (if even considered, dunno).

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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#155 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:39 pm

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Azarael wrote:A cooldown can be added to Pounce, but please bear in mind that changing one ability for balance reasons opens the door for others to be changed as well.

When it comes to modifications, there are tiers of viability:

Perfect - displays correctly on client

- Switching tactics and abilities around, changing level requirements for them, changing mastery organisation

Good - client's info will be partially correct

- Changing cooldown (hotbars will display correct cooldown but tooltip will be wrong)
- Changing effect of buffs (buff icon and stats screen will be correct)
- changing AP (consumption will be correct, tooltip will be wrong)
- changing damage (combat log / wsct / buff icon / etc will be correct, tooltip will be wrong)

Tolerable - client's info will be wrong

- changing stacking group for buffs
- adding functionality to abilities

Bad - client's info will be grossly wrong

- changing ability functionality entirely

Unacceptable - client will actively interfere

- changing ability requirements (mechanic points, requiring block/parry etc)
it's from long i would ask for this but, it's possible instead change game file to download add -on that fix/change what is write or show? (like fix-git) cos using add on we will not violate the copyright and that could be a way to move the game forward.
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#156 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:40 pm

Luth wrote:Pounce is 21, fetch is 40 :)
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wl; ... ;;;0:0:0:0:
My opinion is that a 10 second CD would do it, but would need to be tested nonetheless (if even considered, dunno).

i see i tought was a rank 40(or 39)skill like mara pull instead a path skill. Odd it isn't
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#157 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:47 pm

I love how you shouldn't be able to pounce from mid air because it's not physically possible. It also isn't physically possible to terrible embrace... punt from mid air ever... punt a person wearing armor anyways...or come back from the dead... with no res like a slayer. We need more real physics in war. I think we should take away the pounce from mid air and give a inc heal debuff... can of worms opened.

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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#158 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:51 pm

Joshwa70 wrote:I love how you shouldn't be able to pounce from mid air because it's not physically possible. It also isn't physically possible to terrible embrace... punt from mid air ever... punt a person wearing armor anyways...or come back from the dead... with no res like a slayer. We need more real physics in war. I think we should take away the pounce from mid air and give a inc heal debuff... can of worms opened.
WL isn't a jedi shouldn't jump on air i remember using it on the bridge in dw after getting punted same with sm morale shouldn't be able to cast it to just pull yrself up
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#159 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:56 pm

Why.. just because u think so? Good argument

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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#160 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:58 pm

A better argument is that Pounce in midair negates KBs almost instantly. For an ability with no cooldown, that's pretty good.

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