ALToholics are pushed away..

[bryanmatic]

I have a strong feeling i know who this is , because we have used the word " altoholics " many time . I will post in calendar when the day come's for the 4 x 80 ding for me .

[Elzog]

Sorry, missed it.
Well, did you contribute enough ? Did you get bags ?

[Rochaid29]

Sorry, missed it.
Well, did you contribute enough ? Did you get bags ?

There are no bags in t1 as far as I know.
And this is exactly what I'm talking about. People posting that have no idea and are not being affected by these changes.
Spreading misinformation based on assumptions.

[Xiander]

Sorry, missed it.
Well, did you contribute enough ? Did you get bags ?

Like previous post said, there is no bags in T1 oRvR but you do get currency for locking the zone, and i did contribute enough to get war crests from locking the zones, I believe i got 2 or 4 from the zone lock but i'm sure this scales how much contribute to zone lock, but i don't expect it to reach same numbers as the t4 zones do, where you get +24 (depends on contribution) for locking the zone and potentially bag.

[Secrets]

...What?

...Que?

this sums it up for me. someone with a "dev" tag just continuing to derail a player's post in which he points out some very real issues, the addon aside, and this is your reply.

Then here's a 'Former Staff' tag who is actually current staff with a serious reply:

NerfedButton's removal has nothing to do with playing and obtaining currency with alts for most players.

These are two mutually separate subjects. If you made an alt because of NerfedButton's removal and you can no longer play your alt as you were dependent on the addon and you are no longer able to play that character by choice instead of learning again, that is a you problem. And doing so has nothing to do with the currency changes.

You have an easier time of gearing the alt you claim you couldn't play now than you did before, as currency changes have made it easier to obtain gear in general.

The team is looking into ways to improve currency gain for specific playstyles, such as unorganized 24-man PUG warbands who get a disproportionate amount of currency - mostly due to lack of consistent kill credit & primarily running boxes being their purpose. Beyond that, the zone locks may grant more currency in bags to reward those who actually complete ORvR zones.

Currently, those players doing both small-scale RvR with two DPS securing kills while completing and winning SCs are getting the most currency, followed by organized 12, 18, or 24-man ORvR warbands.

[Martok]

...what?

I said, what does Marsellus Wallace look like?

[Rochaid29]

...Que?

this sums it up for me. someone with a "dev" tag just continuing to derail a player's post in which he points out some very real issues, the addon aside, and this is your reply.

Then here's a 'Former Staff' tag who is actually current staff with a serious reply:

NerfedButton's removal has nothing to do with playing and obtaining currency with alts for most players.

These are two mutually separate subjects. If you made an alt because of NerfedButton's removal and you can no longer play your alt as you were dependent on the addon and you are no longer able to play that character by choice instead of learning again, that is a you problem. And doing so has nothing to do with the currency changes.

You have an easier time of gearing the alt you claim you couldn't play now than you did before, as currency changes have made it easier to obtain gear in general.

The team is looking into ways to improve currency gain for specific playstyles, such as unorganized 24-man PUG warbands who get a disproportionate amount of currency - mostly due to lack of consistent kill credit & primarily running boxes being their purpose. Beyond that, the zone locks may grant more currency in bags to reward those who actually complete ORvR zones.

Currently, those players doing both small-scale RvR with two DPS securing kills while completing and winning SCs are getting the most currency, followed by organized 12, 18, or 24-man ORvR warbands.

There is an obvious disconnect here. I in no way am or ever was an advocate for nerf buttons, never used that mod. Every single alt I have I have learned/continue to learn to play by watching videos reading guides and playing the game.

My issue that affects me (and I speak for myself here) is that because of the increased price and gating applied to gear the amount of time invested does not equal rewards.

The rate at which crests are accrued pre-40 is much lower and the price of lower tiers gear is disproportionate to the gains in crests. Meaning, it's too expensive. I will always out-level the gear by the time I have enough currency to buy it... so what's the point then?

As for wards, my god.. I just do not understand it, I don't understand how you can apply a system that only handicaps players below the 40 mark. What is the point in going back needing to buy and waste the crests that are not earned at such an alarming rate as some here claim pre-40 for pieces of gear that have absolutely no use at my character's current level? I have to "waste" those tokens buying useless gear in order to be able to burn more tokens to buy gear I actually need. This has an undesirable effect on your players, please review it and reconsider.

EDIT: I'm going to include an extra line here. I want an honest exchange of information with you. What would you suggest I do? Try to reach level 40 as fast as possible where the drop rate for tokens is higher and save every token I can in order to buy all the previous gear so I can unlock the wards? I am honestly lost here and I do not know how to progress.

[zulnam]

Gonna ignore that first part where you mentioned NB, since it makes no sense. I am an altoholic (25 characters), and i never used it once.

As for the ALT subject: you can now start grinding your meds for Vanq, Invader, even Sov, when you're below level 40. Now, more than ever, players using scrolls to stay in the T2/3 scenario bracket will be rewarded and could even go straight full conq/dominator when they get to 40; hell you can get dominator set even from RvR and conqueror from SC.

And the removal of the SC quest means you can go out in the world and do PQs and actual, honest to god, quests without fear of missing out on maximum rewards.


The cost is higher but so is the drop rate and now when you are finished with your tier set you can start saving straight for the next one, instead of gaining 100 pointless soldier meds and converting them into 20 officers.

[mynban]

Had a glimpse at replies, and there are so many.. I will put it straight; bullshit replies that claim you can earn towards future sets at low levels, or drops are increased.

You guys clearly hadn't played a new character for ages, you NEVER EVER had any issue buying the SC/RvR set AS WELL AS as much potion you can drink on CD.

Now you can't even buy the gear that is at your rank, by the time you reach it. You dont even have the option to say **** it and skip a set because it is ward locked. By the time I have enough crests to buy the gear I ALREADY outleveled, I will still have to **** buy it instead of using those crests for next set, because of ward.

And you claim you can save for sov on top of that? LOL.

And I wont even touch the issue with potions, a new char can NOT use a single pot on their way to progress.

Posts here couldn't have been more out of line with reality.

[space44]

what started as a meme now heated up and starting some sparks. take back everything about the first replies derailing the topic.

c: