Remove PUG scenarios and Solo Ranked

[tvbrowntown]

pug scenario should be replaced with premade scenario - there, i said it. scenarios should be fun, quick skirmishes for the filthy, grotty, disgusting lepers known as solos and pugs at this point because ranked exists for us GIGA ULTRA ALPHA CHADS.

[Mez]

i like solo queueing because trying to carry pugs vs a premade is the end game.

[Meliannia]

having just 1 scen as a pug scen should be no issue for anyone
its population imbalnace in CET GMt timezone that needs looking at not a random pug scen imo
also one side having 500 ppl can obv make many more 6mans than the side that has 250 ppl
if there was population cap on factions and equal ish numbers then id agree that both sides have the sameish resources to draw from.

[shoelessHN]

i like solo queueing because trying to carry pugs vs a premade is the end game.

After 200 cities what else is there to do besides carry pugs? Pve doors? Dumping oil was fun for a long time. Twinking t1 and t2 is now end game.

[Topdude]

The PUG scenario is an easy way for players to escape having to group up, and players should be encouraged to group up always otherwise they should not play an MMO.

The Solo Ranked gamemode is also harming the game by not requiring players to group.

And the hate for less than elite or 2/2/2 players gets another bullhorn!
What you don't realize, can't see or fail to admit (don't worry, you're in the good company of The Devs) is that removing any possibility of solo play or making it increasingly hard is resulting in new players leaving the game. You've got to provide some type of rewarding game play for people that start and have no idea how to play a class. You expect them to join up with others that have been playing for years, playing on their 40/80+ mains and to put up with the ridicule that so often happens with this community? You expect the most eager player to join a WB at lvl 16 only to be autoband removed because their level is too low?
Don't shut out PUGS! They are the key to keeping this server's population up and stopping it from developing any further into a game of stale old player elites only.

[Everdin]

Simply enforce premade vs premade in scenarios. Premade vs pugs is and should be insult to people grouping up.

No? Kthxbbye

But isn't the current state best state for pug? They have a savespace and are able to que with premades. Why taking them the opportunity?

Whats about 3man groups/4man groups/5 man groups, will they get a own 3v3, 4v4, 5v5?

What about solo? shouldn't there be a place where solos can completly of all boundaries, without beeing forces against 2man quer?

[doxifera]

Not playing for about 2 years, sometimes checking forum to see game make more solo friendly( separate SC que for groups and solo etc.) and see such a thread - ehh, you guys never learn, good luck with 100 people online

[NSKaneda]

Spoiler:

Simply enforce premade vs premade in scenarios. Premade vs pugs is and should be insult to people grouping up.

No? Kthxbbye

But isn't the current state best state for pug? They have a savespace and are able to que with premades. Why taking them the opportunity?

Whats about 3man groups/4man groups/5 man groups, will they get a own 3v3, 4v4, 5v5?

What about solo? shouldn't there be a place where solos can completly of all boundaries, without beeing forces against 2man quer?

Pug vs pug happens, but more often when you're in pug you face premades. When you're in premade you're facing pugs and there's hardly a time when it's premade vs premade - surely organized vs organized is what it should be about and why players form them - to prove their team is the best against other like minded people, not to farm pugs and brag about what pro chads they are.

Since this topic is about removing pug scs and making it hard for them to play the way they want to - let's see how l33t crowd does against people with the same attitude. I've got a feeling they won't last long, nor will this mode be popular.

[Sulorie]

Pug vs pug happens, but more often when you're in pug you face premades. When you're in premade you're facing pugs and there's hardly a time when it's premade vs premade - surely organized vs organized is what it should be about and why players form them - to prove their team is the best against other like minded people, not to farm pugs and brag about what pro chads they are.

Is there some middle ground, when some casual players want to play together, because they happen to be in a guild and the sole purpose of guilds is to play with other players? It doesn't mean they are pro gamers and seek to farm solos, they just want to have fun with their friends.
When there is no enemy premade in queue at that time, it gets filled with solos and smaller groups.
To change it and always match 2+ premades, the players have all the tools available, namely forming a group as well. Why should a 6man wait longer in queue, because enemy side doesn't form groups - in a group based MMO. Solos are fillers and nothing will change in that aspect.
If not playing against premades was such an issue for solo players, the pug SC would be more popular.
Btw, the weekend events are meant to reward playing together in a group to get it done faster, afaik there are no intentions to pick pug SC for event.

[wachlarz]

Pug vs pug happens, but more often when you're in pug you face premades. When you're in premade you're facing pugs and there's hardly a time when it's premade vs premade - surely organized vs organized is what it should be about and why players form them - to prove their team is the best against other like minded people, not to farm pugs and brag about what pro chads they are.

Is there some middle ground, when some casual players want to play together, because they happen to be in a guild and the sole purpose of guilds is to play with other players? It doesn't mean they are pro gamers and seek to farm solos, they just want to have fun with their friends.
When there is no enemy premade in queue at that time, it gets filled with solos and smaller groups.
To change it and always match 2+ premades, the players have all the tools available, namely forming a group as well. Why should a 6man wait longer in queue, because enemy side doesn't form groups - in a group based MMO. Solos are fillers and nothing will change in that aspect.
If not playing against premades was such an issue for solo players, the pug SC would be more popular.
Btw, the weekend events are meant to reward playing together in a group to get it done faster, afaik there are no intentions to pick pug SC for event.

But fighting again and again and again with premade vs solo, solo stop playing sc. I dont remeber 4 years ago so big issue with sc. I can lose or win, but a streak of 20 lose 500 to 0 can break all.