Noise's lil 'Blog' [Old "Guide" post]

[noisestorm]

What i dislike about the Loathing path is pretty obvious: Block skill works like Hold the Line -> channeling and you cannot do **** while using it.
Parry is mostly useless, since you got your shield to block melee attacks. And most of the time you will either want to faceroll healers/mages with anti detaunt, or annoy the sh*t out of them with your healdebuff. Also the synergy/utility with tactics (disrupt/ap/speed boost) is way higher than any parry could offer you. Sure the 45% toughness one is nice, but since it is so low in the tree you can surely manage to get a specc without going any higher up in the mid tree (if you ever need it).

If you got high disrupts and block values you will negate a lot more of damage than through the toughness in terms of mages. Same goes for melees who will have to deal with your elite training as well as your shield too. I personally simply see no reason to get higher up in the mid tree

[TenTonHammer]

gotcha thnaks for the explanation noise, i had no idea that block skill was channeling

[Coryphaus]

Hey noise got any advice on dealing with white lion perma snare kiting?

Was fighting 1v1 some guy today in nord sc and even though I was able to hit him some while my snare immunity was up he would charge then casually hop around while the lion slowed and attacked me so then I switched to monstro then healed and killed off his lion, and wile I focused it he tired to come in close to hit me and I switch targets to him and he would back out to resume his merry little dance .

I got him down to 40-50% and I was around the same health; I think that in the long run with monstro self heal and warped flesh procs I would have won but then the sc ended.

When they fight me straight up I always win but I don’t really like dealing with this kiting and am wondering if there is a solution/more effective means of fighting against it?

[amputationsaw]

When they fight me straight up I always win but I don’t really like dealing with this kiting and am wondering if there is a solution/more effective means of fighting against it?

so you know now why they choose the cheesy tactic to fight a mara. only possible way to fight against op no one with knowledge comes up for a mara by choice

[Luth]

advice on dealing with white lion perma snare kiting?

MDPS 10 second snare immunity?

Btw, i need advices how to win a fight on mDPS vs. another mDPS without my weaponskill taken into account.

[Coryphaus]

so you know now why they choose the cheesy tactic to fight a mara. only possible way to fight against op no one with knowledge comes up for a mara by choice

a….they’ve been using that/doing that since t1; It just so happens that my class is mara am asking if there is a way to deal with it in general

MDPS 10 second snare immunity?

Popped it as soon as I got snared, charged him hit im some times, snared him, he popped charge and jumped around, and the my immunity wore out, I guess if you’re a tank you could root him and the lion with AoE root and then kill the player

[amputationsaw]

so you know now why they choose the cheesy tactic to fight a mara. only possible way to fight against op no one with knowledge comes up for a mara by choice

a….they’ve been using that/doing that since t1; It just so happens that my class is mara am asking if there is a way to deal with it in general

because classes which a WL can't beat existed also in T1, i guess they wouldn't do it against an easy kill. Maras are never easy so ofc they kite you till oblivion

only way could be to hide behind some object and spam our selfheal proc and kill the lion...

[noisestorm]

Well since we dont have any odjira or quick escape proccs at the moment (which his pet would perma trigger), as well as the arguably strange pet pathing you cannot do much id guess. Pet should go on a 15 second cooldown though when you kill it. So quickly finishing it off and then closing in on the WL himself should give you a small window. Also you most likely want to wait for his charge and then use your snare and not before that. Im not sure right now, but iirc charge doesnt give him slow immunity, so applying it directly after he uses it should help.. Not much i can contribute here

Edit: Also noone forces you to let someone kite you. You can always walk around any corner and see if he turns and comes closer to you, giving you a better chance of engage this way

[Coryphaus]

Hey noise saw you post that you had a guild mate that was pretty good at magus do you remeber how they had specd?

Also my guild mates have been saying that mag becomes a weak/lackluster once gclense is in the game is that true?

also do you suggest endless pandemonium + devour energy or use endless knowledge + devour for right now?


(does devour energy proc on DoT tick?)