So Nerfed Buttons Is Not Removed Completely and What That Means...

[Talladego]

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Same discussions since 2016 lol

Yes and it's funny how for five years it still remained in the game and people still played, and I assume, enjoyed playing.

This quote from the old thread sums it up pretty well imo:

Disable it and the impact will hit the casuals the most. Sure, it would be 'pure gameplay' again, agreed. And I can get, why some player consider NB a cheat, since it will enable bad/medicore player to archive actions, that usually are way above their skillset. But really doubt it would benefit the server more, than it would hurt it.

[scutarius]

I love how people argued and cried for years because some people prefered to play easier way, and they didn't. If you think it gives player advantage use it. To me I never like the way it worked. So I never used it, at the same time never blamed other players who were using it. I'm playing this game for fun and not here to ruin my fun with thinking others using an addon where I don't even need to use... Some of you need to get your **** together.

I couldn't agree more Tillirage, and this I imagine would be the prevailing attitude of the majority of players. Shame it's the loud mouth "L33ts" that get pandered to. Sucking out other peoples fun because of a competitive edge? lel. Bad players are bad NB or not. I don't think NB should exist necessarily, but if its going to give the game a larger player base and ultimately a better game experience overall I'd bite the bullet.

[darkt1981]

First to clear stuff up:
I played live from beta till shutdown.

- NB was never a bannable offence in live.
- Yes there seems to be a modded version "still" around that works giving some people a edge over others.
- Yes we had people that where disable using it and now left the game.
- Yes pop dropped because of beter weather.
- Yes people left because they had enough of the "idears" the devs had and doeing stuff people never asked for.
- Yes its there server and they can do what they want, but if they keeping doeing what there doeing now more people will leave i am sure on this.
- No devs dont own the game and they never will even if they say so. (And no EA / Gamework shop is not related to this server and yes i have written proof from EA laywers stating they dont even know or have given "permission" to host this) How do i know this? I was the one that contacted them for a statement and from what i understand investigations are still pending.
- I heared statements about people saying max was part of game workshop, that is impossible seeing his age, he would have been like 16-18 back then, dont think the would have higered him then.
- Did blocking NB change stuff? No there are mmorpg mouses out there that allow lua scripting and hooking in to games. Wich cannot be detected, nor are they a bannable offence, this has been a issue for years with gaming companies and some even lost law suites over this.
- Can devs check logs to find cheaters modders? Yes they can will they do it a lot, nope because the backend of the game is a mess (confirmed by a few old devs and no im not talking about the onces from that other server xD wich will never come)
- Do i still play the game? No i do not after NB patch, seeing also dont agree anymore on the way they treat there "guests" and you know who you are.
- Will i return to the game, in don't expect it nor do i care.
- And yes there are shady things going around by staff members, like selling (banned) accounts and bound items on black market websites. Yes u have the links to proof this but again i will not, so people will not break the game even more.

Do i care if the devs read this and ban me no i don't. EA laywers are already looking in to this server, nor do i care for people/devs that think there beter/above others.

My tip for the staff, i would start to treat you community a bit beter before it bites back at you.

This is not my first ride with abusive staff/wanky production, wich got closed down and it will not be my last.

I wish the community good luck and lots of kills in the game.

P.s mind the typos: was written on a small phone and english is not my native language.

[abezverkhiy]

Any examples of success of your previous crusades?

Any lawyer would start the case if there is a benefit for their client. There is no benefit here - RoR is not a commercial project, they have no cash to loot and they do not cause EA losing any.

You are a ****.

[BeautfulToad]

I kind of wish I tried nerf buttons now with all this hullabaloo going on and the lawyers getting involved

[darkt1981]

Any examples of success of your previous crusades?

Any lawyer would start the case if there is a benefit for their client. There is no benefit here - RoR is not a commercial project, they have no cash to loot and they do not cause EA losing any.

You are a ****.

Any examples of success of your previous crusades?

Any lawyer would start the case if there is a benefit for their client. There is no benefit here - RoR is not a commercial project, they have no cash to loot and they do not cause EA losing any.

You are a ****.

Any examples of success of your previous crusades?

Any lawyer would start the case if there is a benefit for their client. There is no benefit here - RoR is not a commercial project, they have no cash to loot and they do not cause EA losing any.

You are a ****.

Seeing your asking, yes ill give you one "Dogs of the seas"

[xoonerfree]

I kind of wish I tried nerf buttons now with all this hullabaloo going on and the lawyers getting involved

Always try popular or most addons/mods in a game. You'd be surprised what people come up with to improve things. Don't live in a closet.

[oaliaen]

O gosh...things are going serious this time..

[wonshot]

Been avoiding RoR for a couple of weeks after the lastest few patches.
But it really suprices me how people are defending useage of an addon like NB.

RoR is not really what I would categorice as a "hard" game to play.
The difficulty of the skill-level comes from getting the most out of every globalcooldown, possitioning yourself, coordinating your abilities with your allies depending on the situation. and that is it.
There is barely any resource management, no style chains like in DaoC, no penalty for breaking a rotation other than performing slightly worse.

And people are willing to quit an entire game because this safetynet is removed and you can now fatfinger keypress "4" instead of keypress "5".
To me that is just lazy and too much of a perma-trainingwheels situation.

I am all for addons that inform the players information, but allows the user to make choices with the information (State of Realm, Buffhead etc)
But when an addon can provide you with information AND perform the correct choices for you, that is crossing the line of what I personally think is acceptable. In this case, NB doing conditional checks for possitional melee abilities as an example.

If people need an addon and safetynet to press their correct rotations in a game with this lowskill floor, thats on them if they want to be adults riding on trainingwheels.
But the conditional checks have to not be welcome, and thats a stance id love to hear the Devs take towards Nerfedbuttons or Buffedbuttons or whatever addon you are trying to allow on RoR.

Conditional checks should be treated like Warbuddy.

[Alfa1986]

Been avoiding RoR for a couple of weeks after the lastest few patches.
But it really suprices me how people are defending useage of an addon like NB.

sure, easy for you to say this way when you have this.


what should we do? sign up for piano courses?