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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#51 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:20 am

mara and low damage, hahahaha good aprils fooling. tell it to city sieges where some maras are top dps number1. pug crushers + all that survavilibity. hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgzdb0t ... G%C3%A1bor
just put talk , that they talk about how mara is uselesss
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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#52 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:28 am

normanis wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:20 am mara and low damage, hahahaha good aprils fooling. tell it to city sieges where some maras are top dps number1. pug crushers + all that survavilibity. hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgzdb0t ... G%C3%A1bor
just put talk , that they talk about how mara is uselesss
Aoe mara doesn't have any target cap like choppa or w.e so dont be fooled.

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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#53 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:06 pm

Someone put a video up recently of Mara's doing continual crits between 2-3k on light armour targets, no Order mdps gets anywhere near that, WL won't. No order mdps gets the high crit levels of Mara also with some skills being above 50%, WL is more like 15-20% with its bonus crit damage tactic being tied to using the pet so can't be used in many situations. Also Mara has the best pull in game. Plus it's survivability is better than all other mdps. Those are the reasons why it's mobility is less than many others, because you can't have it all.

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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#54 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:37 pm

wildwindblows wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:28 am
normanis wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:20 am mara and low damage, hahahaha good aprils fooling. tell it to city sieges where some maras are top dps number1. pug crushers + all that survavilibity. hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgzdb0t ... G%C3%A1bor
just put talk , that they talk about how mara is uselesss
Aoe mara doesn't have any target cap like choppa or w.e so dont be fooled.
exatly slayer/choppa slot tactic for 24 aoe, while mara no need sacrefice tactic slot for it, just spam dem + wreck balls aoe mutinity. its already capped 24 persons if in 20feet around + till 30feet. mara is fine as it is. if u whant buff remove monstrosity heal buff byt replace with extra damage when it procs. ( similar like brut/sav ) on proc x damage next 5 sec. and vuala. just fixed mara
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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#55 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:44 pm

normanis wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:37 pm
wildwindblows wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:28 am
normanis wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:20 am mara and low damage, hahahaha good aprils fooling. tell it to city sieges where some maras are top dps number1. pug crushers + all that survavilibity. hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgzdb0t ... G%C3%A1bor
just put talk , that they talk about how mara is uselesss
Aoe mara doesn't have any target cap like choppa or w.e so dont be fooled.
exatly slayer/choppa slot tactic for 24 aoe, while mara no need sacrefice tactic slot for it, just spam dem + wreck balls aoe mutinity. its already capped 24 persons if in 20feet around + till 30feet. mara is fine as it is. if u whant buff remove monstrosity heal buff byt replace with extra damage when it procs. ( similar like brut/sav ) on proc x damage next 5 sec. and vuala. just fixed mara
Folks, this topic is not about Aoe mara. Aoe mara is fine. The topic is about mobility of mara in ranked games :D

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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#56 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:46 pm

Gurf wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:06 pm Someone put a video up recently of Mara's doing continual crits between 2-3k on light armour targets, no Order mdps gets anywhere near that, WL won't. No order mdps gets the high crit levels of Mara also with some skills being above 50%, WL is more like 15-20% with its bonus crit damage tactic being tied to using the pet so can't be used in many situations. Also Mara has the best pull in game. Plus it's survivability is better than all other mdps. Those are the reasons why it's mobility is less than many others, because you can't have it all.
exatly u cant be tanky and same time blink like mage in wow , and deal incredible damage ( brut tree is skiped by most maras its become support tree). byt in video we clearly saw annihilator geared mara-brutality attacking bw and sw. LORE ( no more gear after annihilator/merce for tham)
p.s wl lack survavibility of mara , crit damage is tied to pet. pull/knock silence same tied to wl. byt same time msquig has so many escape/attack tools like noone else in game. its not balanced clearly. not talking cost and cd about wl/mara detount and slayer/choppa detount
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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#57 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:46 pm

Gurf wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:06 pm Someone put a video up recently of Mara's doing continual crits between 2-3k on light armour targets, no Order mdps gets anywhere near that, WL won't. No order mdps gets the high crit levels of Mara also with some skills being above 50%, WL is more like 15-20% with its bonus crit damage tactic being tied to using the pet so can't be used in many situations. Also Mara has the best pull in game. Plus it's survivability is better than all other mdps. Those are the reasons why it's mobility is less than many others, because you can't have it all.
I'd really really like to see that video. Maybe you can provide? Because I am rr84 98% BiS, tried almost every specc imaginable and never ever got continued crits like that :D
well the high crit is probably because of Feeding of Fear tactic, which is mirrored 1 to 1 on SW.
And no the pull is not the best in the game (source: me)
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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#58 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:25 pm

The priority thing Maras need is a female option.

Need something to offset that ugly arm.

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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#59 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:05 pm

Pandastyle wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:46 pm
Gurf wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:06 pm Someone put a video up recently of Mara's doing continual crits between 2-3k on light armour targets, no Order mdps gets anywhere near that, WL won't. No order mdps gets the high crit levels of Mara also with some skills being above 50%, WL is more like 15-20% with its bonus crit damage tactic being tied to using the pet so can't be used in many situations. Also Mara has the best pull in game. Plus it's survivability is better than all other mdps. Those are the reasons why it's mobility is less than many others, because you can't have it all.
I'd really really like to see that video. Maybe you can provide? Because I am rr84 98% BiS, tried almost every specc imaginable and never ever got continued crits like that :D
well the high crit is probably because of Feeding of Fear tactic, which is mirrored 1 to 1 on SW.
And no the pull is not the best in the game (source: me)
Would also like to see this wonder video.
-Theo

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Re: Marauder mobility

Post#60 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:15 pm

Gurf wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:06 pm Someone put a video up recently of Mara's doing continual crits between 2-3k on light armour targets, no Order mdps gets anywhere near that, WL won't. No order mdps gets the high crit levels of Mara also with some skills being above 50%, WL is more like 15-20% with its bonus crit damage tactic being tied to using the pet so can't be used in many situations. Also Mara has the best pull in game. Plus it's survivability is better than all other mdps. Those are the reasons why it's mobility is less than many others, because you can't have it all.
Lets compare Mara mobility to other melle classes:
vs WE/WH +self punt, rest are same. we/wh win
vs SW- Self punt +shadowstep every 20sec(65feet) no charge and break free, for me mara win. (Sw can also use speed tactic, but its pure waste)
vs Slayer - draw
vs Choppa- GTDC got +20%speed, small win for choppa
vs mSH - self punt, Squig Leap(35% run speed after), Run Away tactic, no break free or charge but still easy win for squig.
vs WL- easy win for WL
vs dok/wp easy win for mara
only 2 classes that got huge diffent in mobility at all, WL and mSH, choppa/we/wh are minor win

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