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ChicagoJoe
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#31 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:26 pm

IB is definitely not the 2H tank champion here given grudge build up time. My first attempts were horrifying bad (40 sec plus) with warlord off sov mix and fortress 2h.
primary IB 8X, EN8X, WP7X, SL7X, KOTBS6X, and a bunch of under rr60 toons on order and destro with other classes.

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Kalt
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#32 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:42 pm

SRoth137 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:43 pm Sav/Brut mara

missing invader weapon, no sent tali, or event item

10.749 sec 1545 dps
Wich gear / stats / and build ?

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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#33 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:06 pm

rr68 Full Vanquisher Marauder, 2 Piece Warrior, Rend Ring of the Fist, Rough Gunbad Ruby, Redeye Cloak, rr65 scene weapon, subjugator offhand
233 Damage Bonus 20% crit 19.8% armor pen
FS3/Opportunist 3

14.191s / 1061 DPS
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Same setup but with Crit lini
211 dmg bonus 25% crit 19.8% armor pen
19.189s / 785 DPS
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Same setup but Sent Helm/Gloves
17.689s / 902 DPS
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I probably just got really lucky with some crits since the average time seems to be about 18s.


rr75 Slayer Full Invader, Bloodlord mainhand, Subjugator offhand, 2 piece Genesis Warrior, 3 piece Beastlord
FS3/ Opportunist 4
899 Str/655 WS/30% crit

13.127s / 1234 DPS

Running Flanking/BF/PFM/WG. Engaged while enraged. Onslaught and ID were part of the rotation.

edit: Swapped Flanking for Fierce Might best I managed at 10% health
12.812/1371 DPS
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kmark101
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#34 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:49 pm

ChicagoJoe wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:26 pm IB is definitely not the 2H tank champion here given grudge build up time. My first attempts were horrifying bad (40 sec plus) with warlord off sov mix and fortress 2h.
Get used to it. Hopefully these dummy tests help people to accept the fact that IB is not equal to Volgo video goodness for a long long time now due to 35-40% more armor and toughness on characters. IB is possibly the worst screwed over class in the current meta. Sadly ANY suggestion to change this was ignored and recent tweaks only focused on utility, leaving the IB in the grave bottom of the dps food chain.

Speaking about it, my dps in average gear with no linis/pots just self buffs is 547dps at best with "real stats" (means not 3 mixed str sets that you can't really play in the real game anymore), lingering in 450-480ish in average. Even the training construct parries my swings lol.
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Gurf
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#35 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:58 pm

kmark101 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:49 pm
ChicagoJoe wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:26 pm IB is definitely not the 2H tank champion here given grudge build up time. My first attempts were horrifying bad (40 sec plus) with warlord off sov mix and fortress 2h.
Get used to it. Hopefully these dummy tests help people to accept the fact that IB is not equal to Volgo video goodness for a long long time now due to 35-40% more armor and toughness on characters. IB is possibly the worst screwed over class in the current meta. Sadly ANY suggestion to change this was ignored and recent tweaks only focused on utility, leaving the IB in the grave bottom of the dps food chain.

Speaking about it, my dps in average gear with no linis/pots just self buffs is 547dps at best with "real stats" (means not 3 mixed str sets that you can't really play in the real game anymore), lingering in 450-480ish in average. Even the training construct parries my swings lol.
IB generates most of its grudge through being hit and Oathfriend, which basically means any training construct results are pointless. If you could find a way of starting at 50 Grudge or something might get more acurate results

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Gareul
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#36 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:51 pm

Average 950-1k (AP Regen Build) , Highest 1.147 (Full Crit Build)
Average time 17-18sec, highest 14-16sec i actually cant remember brain fart.

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Baaldr
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#37 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:58 pm

Black orc
5 Warlord/3 bloodlord
Full glass setup in renown
No pots but m1
Best 17 seconds
Avrege 19 seconds

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Twohandernoob
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#38 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:16 pm

Witch Hunter rr83, no pve ring

10.1s dps 1680

Working on sub 10, think its up to the RNG crit gods.

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kmark101
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#39 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:57 pm

Gurf wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:58 pm IB generates most of its grudge through being hit and Oathfriend, which basically means any training construct results are pointless. If you could find a way of starting at 50 Grudge or something might get more acurate results
It's super easy to start the test at 100 grudge - just pump it up on a nearby construct, finish it, wait a few seconds to your AP to fill then start on next construct. All my tests are with 100 grudge from the start, otherwise it would be a super depressing 300dps result :)
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Parallels66
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Re: [Training Constructs] Show your results

Post#40 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:44 pm

https://imgur.com/INTQD0O

SnB IB 3 peice sov/5 invader, fortress hammer/ scenario reverence shieldm, 2x genesis everlasting, 1x genesis warrior, only m1 used, no pots/linis :))))))))))))))
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