WhiteLion Damage

[Grock]

Lol so you think Squig Armor gives 120 WS as it does on SW assault ? Please if you don't know what are you talking about just keep quiet to not put yourself into position of a fool.

Do you know the meaning of "IIRC"?

[jughurta69]

change pack hunting to 10% AA speed , full stuff with tatics AA speed 1.5 or 1,7 . AA is a good burst
With this tactic AA its auto attacks are faster than a dps with a weapon in each hand while being at 2h

Change brutal pounce , stun if Lion disrupt range 65ft not 150 ( why only mara have this stun...)

Maybe is too much

[Stelios123]

Quite a few other classes don't feel that way and I'd rather see them buffed to be on par with WL.

exactly.

[aa91837]

dualwield-equivalent 10% from Squig Armor

wrong again

[rocc]

Always the same speeches for 2 years.

We will answer you
- Do not compare the classes between them...
- You do not know how to play !
- Find a team or a guild

The truth is no balance in this game.

One loser player with many loser players gives a team of loser which progress less quickly therefore less good stuff

It's the life on ROR.

But ROR is free. You have to accept.

[repel]

any reasons why pets still have 125 speed instead 100? any devs can answer pls. WL pets with charge or tacitc have 175 speed instead of 150 (like it was on live) Even mounts speed is 160!!!

[Omegus]

any reasons why pets still have 125 speed instead 100? any devs can answer pls. WL pets with charge or tacitc have 175 speed instead of 150 (like it was on live) Even mounts speed is 160!!!

Because pets were utter trash without it and couldn't actually hit a moving target.

[Knowthyself]

any reasons why pets still have 125 speed instead 100? any devs can answer pls. WL pets with charge or tacitc have 175 speed instead of 150 (like it was on live) Even mounts speed is 160!!!

Because pets were utter trash without it and couldn't actually hit a moving target.

Lol then what about Horned Squig ? I guess it deserves a pet charge or speed ability in that case ?

[Acidic]

any reasons why pets still have 125 speed instead 100? any devs can answer pls. WL pets with charge or tacitc have 175 speed instead of 150 (like it was on live) Even mounts speed is 160!!!

Because pets were utter trash without it and couldn't actually hit a moving target.

Lol then what about Horned Squig ? I guess it deserves a pet charge or speed ability in that case ?

Pet abilities and surviability issues are only considered if your class is white lion.

[sogeou]

Spoiler:

Reliable facts? Woot, thats new!
May you show them? Cause now its 85% of nothing...

Get em is double the damage of CS from the WL. Maybe that move should be nerfed or tactic removed.

First thank you, but which pic is which class? I guess the one with 82% crit is wl, cause you said get them double the dmg.
Another point is, wl is going for pounce+FO+aa+lion aa+Brutal pounce (all go of on pounce impact, maybe a bit earlier) into pack assault into CS all while kd. Tbh dont know if lion do aas or just use his skills, which should be a stacking armor debuff, not sure again.
Also remebr in this sh (should) have 1h, wl 2h.
As far as i know sh dont have a armor debuff in meele and the range one i not as potant in value.

SH is the one with more crit as it can easily get way more crit than the WL. I am not going to tell people how to be OP with the mSH, but you can get up to 70% with the mSH.

To your next point mSH can preload burst just as much, if not more than the WL because they can stack AOE in there as well. Plus their KD is something they can use without a pet, plus a disarm for extra damage burst.

Git'em damage does about 4000-5000 damage, while the WL is lucky to get 2000- 2500 damage out of CS as it was nerfed by a large % in last Fall.

Furthermore you talk about auto attacks, SH and WL are doing the same, if a WL is spec'ed for AA haste they are doing less pet damage, while mSH can attack more often. The end result is the same 4000-5000 damage over the same time period.

Next topic, armor debuff. Warlord set has an 800 armor debuff which always procs and SH don't really need it to kill most targets as they have 600 weapon skill easy.

TLDR people never want to understand or listen to real data, they just want to cry why they died. Most people run around with 6000-7000 HP and no stats to stay alive, No points invested in chance to be crit or use pots to stay alive. It is much easier to cry about nerfing something instead of fixing your bad playing style.