Helloooo
let's go beyond the fact that I'm the worst player in the galaxy and I don't understand anything about the mechanics of the game and let's look at this test together.
1 IB rr40, 2H with 20 pt of RR in parry basic equipment ( dont have the 5% bonus parade with the BL set but i could easy, good epic 2H)
1 IB rr85 s&b with 20 pt of RR in VERY high end equipment block (invader, subju, bl, bonus jewellery block all)
the objective is to see an equivalent number of attacks that better protect it from guard damage.for the same number of points of rr spent and with a clear advantage over the equipment for the RR85, but no matter.
video test 70% parade(max73%) ( not getstat , you can see the getsat in the video)
https://youtu.be/1iAN7FhueVU
video test 41% blocage+ 35 % (max 39%)parade ( not getstat , you can see the getstat in video)
https://youtu.be/I4yMlOjQ2E4
thank you for your feedback on this result which would show, unless I'm mistaken, that despite a better equipment for the same number of points of rr spent we protect it less well with an s&b from guard damage than with a 2H.
of course I could have spend 20 pt of RR on parry for s&b but the 2H will also be able to benefit in another way from this 20 pt. and the 2H could have WS talisman (more than 100 pts) and the BL bonus 5% parry ect... so let's keep in mind a close equivalence please.
remember all dommage guard can be parry : https://youtu.be/ESVWgxEjMcg
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Re: test guard
Did you really do this? You use .getstats when parry buff is up and it shows 25 percent, i.e. the parry buff. Also without parry buff the paperdoll value is white indicating that nothing adds to your parry. I am fairly sure that when investing in reflexes it shows on the paperdoll (even if final value is not correct).
Edit: Yep, the 2handers reflexes shows up on .getstats...
Edit2: Nvm, I missread you. You say that you did not use full reflexes. That is the point though, you can, and should use that as a snb which makes your point moot. Why not add some other arbitrary restriction in your assessment then?
Last edited by Nekkma on Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:04 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: test guard
I am not sure if you are just trolling or are you serious about this.
Re: test guard
I did not spend it, I wanted to say that I could have spentNekkma wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:58 amDid you really do this? You use .getstats when parry buff is up and it shows 25 percent, i.e. the parry buff. Also without parry buff the paperdoll value is white indicating that nothing adds to your parry. I am fairly sure that when investing in reflexes it shows on the paperdoll (even if final value is not correct).
Edit: Yep, the 2handers reflexes shows up on .getstats... Not sure if sloppy or deliberately misleading at this point.
sorry for my bad english
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(KOBS,WH,WP,BW,SW,WL,SM,BO,CHOSEN,SH,MAGUS, MARAU ,CHOP,SHAM )40+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJx3So8q6o
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(KOBS,WH,WP,BW,SW,WL,SM,BO,CHOSEN,SH,MAGUS, MARAU ,CHOP,SHAM )40+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJx3So8q6o
Re: test guard
Yes, i noticed that upon re-reading your post. I edited my edit and I apologize that I implied that you deliberately tried to deceive.
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Re: test guard
And if you only care about avoiding guard damage with the same amount of renown points spent why don't you spec 18 % parry instead of 10 % block as a snb?
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Re: test guard
Well, because when we are s & b, we try to up its blocking? and the idea is to compare the blocking + remain parrade with full parrade
My video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65aHhb4kCJU
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Hogun - IB 80+ Hoguun RP 80+ Hogunn ING 80+ HOG Slayer 80+ Gor IB 2M 50
(KOBS,WH,WP,BW,SW,WL,SM,BO,CHOSEN,SH,MAGUS, MARAU ,CHOP,SHAM )40+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJx3So8q6o
DAMMAZ KRON !
Hogun - IB 80+ Hoguun RP 80+ Hogunn ING 80+ HOG Slayer 80+ Gor IB 2M 50
(KOBS,WH,WP,BW,SW,WL,SM,BO,CHOSEN,SH,MAGUS, MARAU ,CHOP,SHAM )40+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJx3So8q6o
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Re: test guard
Thank you for this, interesting infohogun wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:21 am Helloooo
let's go beyond the fact that I'm the worst player in the galaxy and I don't understand anything about the mechanics of the game and let's look at this test together.
1 IB rr40, 2H with 20 pt of RR in parry basic equipment ( dont have the 5% bonus parade with the BL set but i could easy, good epic 2H)
1 IB rr85 s&b with 20 pt of RR in VERY high end equipment block (invader, subju, bl, bonus jewellery block all)
the objective is to see an equivalent number of attacks that better protect it from guard damage.for the same number of points of rr spent and with a clear advantage over the equipment for the RR85, but no matter.
video test 70% parade(max73%) ( not getstat , you can see the getsat in the video)
https://youtu.be/1iAN7FhueVU
video test 41% blocage+ 35 % (max 39%)parade ( not getstat , you can see the getstat in video)
https://youtu.be/I4yMlOjQ2E4
thank you for your feedback on this result which would show, unless I'm mistaken, that despite a better equipment for the same number of points of rr spent we protect it less well with an s&b from guard damage than with a 2H.
of course I could have spend 20 pt of RR on parry for s&b but the 2H will also be able to benefit in another way from this 20 pt. and the 2H could have WS talisman (more than 100 pts) and the BL bonus 5% parry ect... so let's keep in mind a close equivalence please.
remember all dommage guard can be parry : https://youtu.be/ESVWgxEjMcg
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Re: test guard
As you tested on IB, i tell from IB PoV
SnB tank need to spent 20 points into reflexes thus getting way more avoidance than 2h (not doing it means playing it wrong or being super low RR).
2h spend those 20 points you speak of into Futule Strike to reduce his chance of getting crit hits (due to gear snb need just II while due to gear 2h need III unless soloroaming with 5p conq)
You are just wrong mate. Stop this trolling.
SnB avoidance can be same (if snb geared offensevily and 2h defensively) or much better than 2h. F******* period.
SnB tank need to spent 20 points into reflexes thus getting way more avoidance than 2h (not doing it means playing it wrong or being super low RR).
2h spend those 20 points you speak of into Futule Strike to reduce his chance of getting crit hits (due to gear snb need just II while due to gear 2h need III unless soloroaming with 5p conq)
You are just wrong mate. Stop this trolling.
SnB avoidance can be same (if snb geared offensevily and 2h defensively) or much better than 2h. F******* period.
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