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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#31 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:25 pm

oaliaen wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:20 pm Giv to destro any class whit same insanely burst as WL ..
I was wondering when you were gonna make an appearance! Good to see you, man!
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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#32 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:25 pm

nebelwerfer wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:55 pm @ bloodi unless his blessings are severed, that is .. but yea i get ur point
The same thing you can severe on a Marauder, you can also severe from a WL, both their 25% damage boost for 10 secs on a 1min cd are blessing and can be severed, so, they both suffer from that.

Point being, Marauder loses the damage boost after the initial burst, Wl loses that daamge, plus 50% damage on his crits, plus the damage the pet gives, shortly after the fight started and doesnt get them back untill he can resummon his pet, this is why people say Wls rely on their initial burst.

Fun fact, Marauders version its a flat 25% damage boost no matter what, Wl requires to attack you in front or sides for it to boost anything.

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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#33 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:50 pm

the more you know. thx for ur input

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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#34 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:07 pm

oaliaen wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:20 pm Giv to destro any class whit same insanely burst as WL ..
beastmaster :lol:
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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#35 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:26 pm

What was the reason the disarm didn't trigger or land? Had the same problem a few times and don't have a clue what's causing it 😅
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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#36 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:27 pm

oaliaen wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:20 pm Giv to destro any class whit same insanely burst as WL ..
Magus can do more, but it takes some prep time, good talking to chaos gods and stroking your enemy the right way.
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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#37 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:26 pm

bloodi wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:45 pm
Knowthyself wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:01 pm

Lol are you a kind of joke ? Who made you believe that spiked squig does more dmg than gas one after the recent patches ? I love damn ppl who has an opinion about everything but not a clue.
I am not going to lie, i based this mostly on the fact that i have a SH and a pair of eyes.

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Both AA and ability damage is higher on the Spike squig, nevermind the fact that it gives you crit and AA on the move. But hey, opinions without a clue right?
Knowthyself wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:01 pm It is clear in the video that I clicked disarm but it didn't trigger but I see that it is very hard for you to grasp that. I mean It is not because I think the disarm would have changed a lot there but it is just you trying to prove yourself a genious out of bullshit.
And thats the whole point genious, if you dont use your cc that lasts longer than his kd and makes him unable to attack you while you are kded, well, its up to you, the fact that you think that him not attacking you for 4 secs wouldnt change anything when he had 26% hp after he killed you says a lot.
Knowthyself wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:01 pmI was KDed just before the WL pounced on me and was dead before I came out of that KD there so tell me how could I use Sticky Squigz on the WL when he was not even in range mr. genius ?
I mean, the part that says detaunt + sticky is because you use first detaunt, to survive the kd and gain range after you get up, imagine that mixed with the disarm, is almost as if you could have killed him if you played properly.
Knowthyself wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:01 pm You might be dumb enough to do something just because you are used to it but that that's not me

Sometimes i get a reply worthy of putting it in my sign, if i used one, this is one of those times.
nebelwerfer wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:36 pm how can you guys say mara is not a frontloaded bursty toon

you literally pop your stat boost, pop your 25% dmg buff and pop open your can of WHOOPASS

that is front loaded
The fact that he has frontloaded burst doesnt mean he relies entirely on it, like the WL.

Once a wl opens on you, you kill his pet and his dps drops drastically, a marauder will do the same again next time his abilities are up sans the 25% damage boost, you have no way to kill his crit boost or to remove part of their damage like you can with WL.

Wl just cant keep up after the initual burst, Mara does.
I have made different tests on both of the pets and what you are missing here is that Spiked's abilities have more CD and you are also ignoring the fact that those pets get different stat bonuses like gas squig usually has more dmg on medium and heavy armored classes since it gets more WS from your stats.

I don't know which part of this is hard for you to understand but I will try to make it simple for you. I pressed to damn disarm button but it simply looked as if it got on CD but only after I watched the video I actually noticed it didn't trigger. Yes maybe you are right about crit bonus and AA on move for Spiked but that doesn't change that keeping the WL out of pounce range with the gas squig is also a good strategy. when it comes to your theory about detaunting what good it would do when I had my dots on him already ? You are full of theories but you don't know that dots break detaunt in ROR? You said you have a SH yourself. So please do us a favour and teach us how it is done please. In the end of the day actions speak louder than words...
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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#38 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:37 am

I play for WH (paris hillton) and I want to say you guys did an absolute evil in armor, you damage as a clean DPS class, (maybe I don’t understand something, but in my understanding, if you got a buff for protection, you should get an attack debuff .. but you are in armor, damage like clean DPS). it doesn't matter if your target is 100% parry, you can knock it down. Just respec to armor and keep OP going...
And why does squig run with you in armor? you did get into it!! :?: look intro video how its hapening.

But I also do not understand why the balance on the scenes is not aligned? At least not a lot of the usual 95% of the scenes of destro have 2-3 times more healers ... what's the point in such scenes! it's just slaughter. But when it happens that the balance is equal, both teams get a good battle, but it happens once a month.... Maybe im just stupid.. and I don't understand such a simple thing, what good is this slaughter (order players)?
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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#39 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:37 am

WL is a joke. There is a reason there are so many WL players around, the class is hilarious. Class with highest front load burst. Did we forget that this is the game where burst is more important than sustained damage?

Let's also not forget that pet can not be cced most of the time (damage goes through but cc does not get applied even though the pet has no immunity, quite a convenient bug) so that fetch into knockdown is almost 100%. And what is with the pet turning into speedy gonzales that gains over 100% movement speed buff once WL sends it to the target (just see how fast that pet is when WL sends it to you while you are mounted and running away from it).

I hope destro will get that beastmaster eventually. Maybe something will happen once both sides complain about it.
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Re: Balance or Madness?

Post#40 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:51 am

Spec demo/havoc, go toughness spec, /lol at every WL you meet 1v1 and never lose. I have some vids on youtube showcasing this.
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