Absorb proc in sets

[bichka]

Can we talk about it? At current state it's completely useless.

Small chance to get 180(!) absorb in domi set (for tanks).
And 3% to get 420 on sent for shammy (and probably some other classes).

Maybe i missed here some other bonuses, but i am want to ask devs about their vision of it.
My is pretty simple - there must be like 10x-20x absorb value with same percent of proc or low value with huge % to proc.

Maybe better to change this bonus for something useful if you don't want to change absorb at all?

[Sulorie]

Wondering too about the tiny absorb with abysmal proc chances.

[adamthelc]

The proc chance is pretty low, but how high should it be? It's just a set bonus. Make it too good and you get have and have nots.

The absorb value seems similar to the RP/Zealot tactic. Of course that proc chance is much better, but should a set bonus be as good as a tactic? Or even close to as good as a tactic?

I don't know exactly where that proc % should be, but it seems really easy to make that bonus TOO good.

[qwerty113]

how about useless tougness buff on sentinel for rdps classess ?!

[Dammy095]

its not only low chance, but on a healer class aswell, which doesnt just stand soaking hits

[sioding]

hm - strange - sounds like the auto detaunt and run away shamy asks for more absorb - and maybe for odjira? To be fair - you ask for a vision and you gave your own with a simple "20x higher value" which would leed into a 8400 absorb on a shammy... well. Maybe the plain 20x isn´t that good.

[DanielWinner]

hm - strange - sounds like the auto detaunt and run away shamy asks for more absorb - and maybe for odjira? To be fair - you ask for a vision and you gave your own with a simple "20x higher value" which would leed into a 8400 absorb on a shammy... well. Maybe the plain 20x isn´t that good.

On the other hand there is an AM (probably the squishiest healer on order) that doesn’t have all the listed things.

I don’t think that increasing proc chance from 3% to 5% (or even 8%) would hurt anyone - it will be a positive change after all.

[Grunbag]

I need to check if the tooltip is correct or not , I don’t recall it to have only 3% in the db

[bichka]

hm - strange - sounds like the auto detaunt and run away shamy asks for more absorb - and maybe for odjira? To be fair - you ask for a vision and you gave your own with a simple "20x higher value" which would leed into a 8400 absorb on a shammy... well. Maybe the plain 20x isn´t that good.

10x-20x is mentioned for domi set ofc, for shammy values must be lower. Like 2k-3k in result, because 180 or 420 in T4 isn't serious. It's one AA from defensive tank or even less.

i understand why you don't want to rush and give descent bonuses at all, if it's give too much - players will abuse it. But if keep low chances to proc like 5%-10% it will proc only at good focus. As i remember mitigation formula applies after absorb, for 5% it's 1 proc per 20 hits, which mean it's useful, but lasts in 1-2 second under such focus.

[bichka]

hm - strange - sounds like the auto detaunt and run away shamy asks for more absorb - and maybe for odjira? To be fair - you ask for a vision and you gave your own with a simple "20x higher value" which would leed into a 8400 absorb on a shammy... well. Maybe the plain 20x isn´t that good.

as i remember there was odjira, kamenra, and absorb tali. But still no unkillable shammies at all. Autodetaunt have chance to proc and provide only 25%, also its waste of tactic slot for healing. Also if i am not wrong, on vanilla servers quick escape doesn't interrupts on ability use and every class had access to it. Run away tactic isn't something special in this case. Odjira + QE was enough.