As someone working HR this one stuck out to me. I do not intend to poke a hornet's nest, so I'll keep it as general as possible:
Of what kind of nature were these incidents? I am primarily asking, because this loops back to my initial input here on the topic of 'recruitment'. It is, in my opinion, only fair to give people a genuine heads-up as far as these things are concerned.
E1: To clarify, for the sake of drama-prevention:
There is a difference between a project failing because of technicalities, and a project failing because of its work environment. Hence my question about the nature of these incidents.
E2: Considering how heated the situation appears to be, let me clarify further:
Technicalities: "We have spend x hours, and it got veto'd because of tech/time restraints."
Work environement: "We have spend x hours, and it got veto'd out of spite."
E3: To clarify even further:
Both of the following events are equally soul-crushing:
a) Putting your all into a task and failing because of discrepancies between unrealistic (for whatever reasons) personal expectations and means available.
b) Putting your all into a task and failing in spite of means available and generally realistically aligned personal expectations.
E4: Changed words in the above from such with negative connotations to such without.
E5: In addition to my initial question in this post:
I've read this part roughly 15 times, trying to figure out the hierachy of things. Either this is a severe case of beating around the bush (see emphasis) or I am just dense beyond saving.Ramasee wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:36 pm Both what Natherul has said and what I have said are true. There were more than one lead that had an issue with us, but it was only one lead that did the veto. Yeah we **** up v1 proposal for WL; we had a v2 and it wasn't the leads or Yali keeping us from proposing v2. (Natherul was on this group as well)
Also, define 'having an issue with us', shouldn't it be 'having an issue with the proposal'?
E6: In the staff listing on the bottom right of the page there are 2 leads (Torquemadra and Natherul). MaxHayman and Yaliskah are manager and owner, so I guess they weren't involved as much, if at all.
i.) What is the actual hierachy like?
ii.) Why are two leads made out to be more than just two, i.e. abstract 'more'?
You see, if you speak about 'more than one' I'd expect the initial set to be greater than two.