I want to talk about dps DOK

[Rockalypse]

What is the difference in DPS WP and Dok ? shouldn't they be mirror classes ?

Overall - WP can be far more tanky, but as he has only one weapon - he has less chances of covenants proc, there are also different skills in place, but that you can check in builder.

mirror != identical

[lefze]

Please discuss about DOK with Chosen v 6
WP never can do as a DPS DOK
I think I play many WARs. Whenever a good pair of DOK come out. U cant kill him if only 6, almost need 2 party ppl to focus
is this normal??? Many times I see a good pair kill 6 on the BOs

Did you even watch it? There's a dok and chosen in the destro 6 man. Against a 6 man with a melee WP filling in a healer spot. They loose a player, and still beat the snot out of the 6 man with the melee dok. What is there to discuss?

Clown always get premade in /5 as everyone known. He wont alone to enter SC not the same as me

How does that matter when he is fighting a premade 6 man in the video. It's the 6v6 scenario. Simply shows dps dok isn't the be all end all by default. Obviously l2p issues involved though.

[Dammy095]

i have more interesting question
did this guy bought his account ?

[peterthepan3]

Please discuss about DOK with Chosen v 6
WP never can do as a DPS DOK
I think I play many WARs. Whenever a good pair of DOK come out. U cant kill him if only 6, almost need 2 party ppl to focus
is this normal??? Many times I see a good pair kill 6 on the BOs

Did you even watch it? There's a dok and chosen in the destro 6 man. Against a 6 man with a melee WP filling in a healer spot. They loose a player, and still beat the snot out of the 6 man with the melee dok. What is there to discuss?

Clown always get premade in /5 as everyone known. He wont alone to enter SC not the same as me

That is your prerogative. If you want to solo queue against DPS DOK/Tank duos who are built to thrive in pug scenarios with their combination of tankiness, damage and healing...that is your choice.

Your issue was that DPS DOK/Chosen is OP. It isn't, and can be dealt with if people want to put in a modicum of effort to do so. Is it OP in a pug environment with no healers, or tanks using guard, or DPS not assisting? Well sorry, but any semblance of clever play/synergy could be deemed OP in such environments: I would wager that a 2h DPS IB/Deftard Grace WP would be even worse than a Chosen/DPS DOK.

As an aside: I'd be more inclined to 'enter SC alone' if there were more actual tanks using guard (and less suicidal quasidps ones).

[monster]

Of course...if you are whinning abou tto be killed by a DOK, just use some defense gear?

u use def gear. U actually never kill him. He can self heal fast. Even 4mdps focus not easy kill a good pair. They just straight through our back line

A pair of any healers is going to be hard to kill. You ever had 2 zealots healing each other... might as well watch LOTR extended trilogy while you wait for one of them to log out.

I get what you're saying, though. I think more people, if choosing to DPS, are going to choose DOK, I don't see many mele WP. Though, after watching that video linked above I might have to try it out lol.

[Drozen]

A wp can do all of what your saying also, granted there is a littlediffrence in dmg etc. A gaurded (and well played ofc) DoK/Wp dps focused will always be king in a pug setting. Me and my friend play 99% pug/roam in duo with a DoK/BG (or chosen, i swapp tank cuz of REASONS) or Wp/Kotbs (I play wp).. And in all honesty here we have more succes as playing Wp/Kotbs then on the destro side, prob due of the fact there is a about 817304ex of dps AM's about.

[Timmitz]

What is the difference in DPS WP and Dok ? shouldn't they be mirror classes ?

Traditionally the wp is a 20% better healer and dok about 10% better dps.

[monster]

What is the difference in DPS WP and Dok ? shouldn't they be mirror classes ?

Overall - WP can be far more tanky, but as he has only one weapon - he has less chances of covenants proc, there are also different skills in place, but that you can check in builder.

mirror != identical

Mirror play styles, I wouldn't say mirror class. Look at Shadow warrior and Squig Herder. They're in the same ballfield and have many similar abilities but they're not identical.

edit: my spelling...

[Mystry]

As an aside: I'd be more inclined to 'enter SC alone' if there were more actual tanks using guard (and less suicidal quasidps ones).

And I'd be more inclined to actually spec for defense and use a SNB if Order had even a single god damn healer per SC, but usually we don't.

REQUIRING equal amounts of healers and tanks for scenarios to launch when?

[Smellybelly]

One of the cool things with having several different classes is that you learn to play them, for example when a dok use rend soul, you use taunt or knockdown. Now L2P herpderp instead of complaining