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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#11 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:14 pm

dalinvar wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:07 pm So I read on the forum regarding rp & zea that if you specc for dps with 1 skill (the one rhat switch dps-heal) you are able to heal as well if needed. Thats what i like, to swith easily between dps and heals.
whole shaman mechanic is about balancing between heal and dps too

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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#12 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:33 pm

I've never dps'd as a Runepriest of zealot those who i've seen/heard about zealot rave about it being real nice or used to be real nice, i have played shaman and loved the mechanic pop off dots get some insta aoe heals or big heals, 240 toughness debuff is great thats like 60 dps and it really adds up visually , i think they are great if u use the mechanic otherwise its wasted talent, i've seen some powerful melee doks aswell but thats about all i can say, it looked good as part of a melee grp very powerful
(edit)(i dont know if they changed the mechanic(shaman) not to work at 5 stacks or not it used to be kind of bugged where it would only consume one stack or im thinking of it incorectly and it only will use 1 stack at a time ..for dps? in witch case it might be utterly less effective) also the laser on shaman is a nice insta hit and 'ere we go with tactic isnt that bad sometimes it makes the difference

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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#13 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:52 am

DPS Zealot is hell of a fun to play but be ready for incoming insults, horrible name calling and pure hate from destruction players if you opt for the Zealot.
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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#14 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:26 pm

Nidwin wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:52 am DPS Zealot is hell of a fun to play but be ready for incoming insults, horrible name calling and pure hate from destruction players if you opt for the Zealot.
Must be doing something wrong with mine then barely happend to me. :-)

So from my view been doing St dps zealot since lvl1 up to rr70+ and always had fun. Never skilled heal however I do heal if I happen to be the only one capable to do so in my group. If we have 1 healer I do dps always. I could count the number of complaints on my hand I'd say. I have to say though it's a lot more to do then with other classes if you want to compare to them and wl basically 1 hit you if you went glass cannon to dps. Everything else however I find quite easy to kill.

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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#15 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:55 pm

Shaman is the most fun healer imo, but to answer your question, Archmage (the Shaman mirror) is the better DPS for 6 mans and SC grinding.

Zealot is amazing for damage done padding in scenarios. You can top the damage alongside bomb BW/Sorc and Engi/Magus AoE Dot specs.
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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#16 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:57 pm

shaman 1) greenskins r just funny and awesome in this game (emotes, animations, sound effects, ability names, a.s.o.) 2) hes good 3) the reworked lifetab path (path of da green) might be interesting to you as a mix of both, heal and dps

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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#17 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:07 pm

dalinvar wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:03 am Please note that I am not going with am/dok because they looks to pajamas/emo for me :lol:
You really shouldn't dismiss DoKs and AMs solely based on their looks.
I wasn't a fan at first either, but the lore really drew me in.

AMs are by far the best rdps healers, and are in a really good place right now, especially with the Dissipating Energies buff; in fact, they are in such a good place that there has been a sudden resurgence of dps AMs that have not played in months-year.
You won't even come close to dealing anywhere near their damage as Shaman. People will tell you that the Shaman is more "burst" oriented, but the AM has access to the same burst.

On the flip side, the DoK outperforms the WP, but not by much. It's just boring to play in comparison.

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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#18 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:50 am

Schmissgesicht wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:57 pm 3) the reworked lifetab path (path of da green) might be interesting to you as a mix of both, heal and dps
it used to be , now its just heal

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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#19 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:55 am

catholicism198 wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:07 pm
dalinvar wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:03 am Please note that I am not going with am/dok because they looks to pajamas/emo for me :lol:
You really shouldn't dismiss DoKs and AMs solely based on their looks.
I wasn't a fan at first either, but the lore really drew me in.

AMs are by far the best rdps healers, and are in a really good place right now, especially with the Dissipating Energies buff; in fact, they are in such a good place that there has been a sudden resurgence of dps AMs that have not played in months-year.
You won't even come close to dealing anywhere near their damage as Shaman. People will tell you that the Shaman is more "burst" oriented, but the AM has access to the same burst.

On the flip side, the DoK outperforms the WP, but not by much. It's just boring to play in comparison.
AM does not have access to 2 x ere we go, 240 toughness debuff or DWiC; it does not have the same burst potential. Also I must differ re wp and dok: when one of them can actually function as a dps, while the other can't, this should demonstrate the disparity between the two.
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Re: Healer long-term choice (with dps perspective)

Post#20 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:25 am

peterthepan3 wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:55 am
AM does not have access to 2 x ere we go, 240 toughness debuff or DWiC; it does not have the same burst potential.
How exactly those affect shaman burst? 400 dmg (1 tactic slot + 1 gcd) from double ere we go is like one tick of one dot. 240 toughness debuff boosts your burst for +- the same amount. DWIC is everything but not the singletarget burst thing also, it has less damage and less range than brainburst. Moreover you barely can combine any 2 of mentioned "burst tools" into single rotation if your target is not afk
tl;dr: that utility/pressure things, not burst tools

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