Choopa vs Slayer

[Aebel]

Slayer beat choppa just becaise rampage is the best dmg multipler in the whole game, aoe pull is crap and ista interruptable if any have a bit of brain.

Slayer also came with the best all purposee cc in game out of immunity (as squig) cd increase and is indirect more tankier than choppa thx to any IB.

AA is better on slayer since is a tactic and is active 100% of time.

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

So basically compare mara and slayer instead.

Choppa, need more love in form.of consistency and less ork-ish rng

Mara is capable of keeping up with a Slayer? I figured Mara dps would be lower because they have solid utility

Feeding on fear and 50% crit increase tactic

Mara can't keep up with slayer when their running red but otherwise their dos.isnt all that far apart since Mara can debuff armor

Maybe I should be looking into a Mara then, I know they offer a lot to a wb on top of their damage

[Arteker616]

Slayer beat choppa just becaise rampage is the best dmg multipler in the whole game, aoe pull is crap and ista interruptable if any have a bit of brain.

Slayer also came with the best all purposee cc in game out of immunity (as squig) cd increase and is indirect more tankier than choppa thx to any IB.

AA is better on slayer since is a tactic and is active 100% of time.

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

So basically compare mara and slayer instead.

Choppa, need more love in form.of consistency and less ork-ish rng

Mara is capable of keeping up with a Slayer? I figured Mara dps would be lower because they have solid utility

Feeding on fear and 50% crit increase tactic

Mara can't keep up with slayer when their running red but otherwise their dos.isnt all that far apart since Mara can debuff armor

Slayer sustained is aswell superior to Mara, since most ,aras ws is bad and rely on pb . while Slayer keeps stacking ws wich make his AA go way deeper on dmg .to many people focus on abilitys dmg tooltips posibilitys and ignore totaly the dmg potential of AA.

Mara original rotation with tb on 5 secs and tactics did closed the gapes btw both on st , but it was on another iteneration of the game.

on live with Haste stacking slayer got to much absurd dmg potential because he could and did achieve 100% haste .

[catholicism198]

Mara is capable of keeping up with a Slayer? I figured Mara dps would be lower because they have solid utility

Feeding on fear and 50% crit increase tactic

Mara can't keep up with slayer when their running red but otherwise their dos.isnt all that far apart since Mara can debuff armor

Maybe I should be looking into a Mara then, I know they offer a lot to a wb on top of their damage

If you're looking to go destro mdps then marauder is a better choice when it comes to damage+survivability+utility- mara plays slightly different from a choppa but no one really does the whole "stance dance" thing, they either stay monstro or sav.
If you're just looking to play the good/better mirror and are not partial to either side, then play the Order versions. That's not to say things won't change down the line. What's good today, might not be good tomorrow. Nothing is set in stone, anything can change.

[Aebel]

Feeding on fear and 50% crit increase tactic

Mara can't keep up with slayer when their running red but otherwise their dos.isnt all that far apart since Mara can debuff armor

Maybe I should be looking into a Mara then, I know they offer a lot to a wb on top of their damage

If you're looking to go destro mdps then marauder is a better choice when it comes to damage+survivability+utility- mara plays slightly different from a choppa but no one really does the whole "stance dance" thing, they either stay monstro or sav.
If you're just looking to play the good/better mirror and are not partial to either side, then play the Order versions. That's not to say things won't change down the line. What's good today, might not be good tomorrow. Nothing is set in stone, anything can change.

Fair enough, I haven't made it much further than t1 with any of my toons in RoR (played some live to t3) and what I'm looking to do is level one from each side up because I can play at random parts of the day so it gives me something to do when my faction is being dominated in rvr. I want to start with dps classes to get the game down before I get into healing or tanking, and I'm super partial to classes with a lot of utility. I was going for a SH because I had heard they were big on utility but the new changes made me a bit wary so i shelved him until I'm sure they still have their utility, and for order I still have no idea what I want to make

[mubbl]

Spoiler:

Mara is capable of keeping up with a Slayer? I figured Mara dps would be lower because they have solid utility

Feeding on fear and 50% crit increase tactic

Mara can't keep up with slayer when their running red but otherwise their dos.isnt all that far apart since Mara can debuff armor

Slayer sustained is aswell superior to Mara, since most ,aras ws is bad and rely on pb . while Slayer keeps stacking ws wich make his AA go way deeper on dmg .to many people focus on abilitys dmg tooltips posibilitys and ignore totaly the dmg potential of AA.

Mara original rotation with tb on 5 secs and tactics did closed the gapes btw both on st , but it was on another iteneration of the game.

on live with Haste stacking slayer got to much absurd dmg potential because he could and did achieve 100% haste .

Hmm so somebody make bad decisions on their stat priority, so the class must be bad i see...and to your aa argumument....what does gift of brutality?
Btw mara has no direct mirrow. It is/was a mix of Wl and Sw skill and mechanic wise.
Back to topic choppa is the burst mdps on destro
This is paid by squshines so you should look for a good tank and healer. Your utility to grp more or less is not worth it cause most tanks can do better but you can still use it.
Slayer looks a bit more easy idd, like kabu said.
But cant say much about.
If you wanna have utility mara is better class then slayer, choppa and wl. But theirs nothing more fun to see a choppa gimp around with his axes and limps and kill everyone in 3-4 gcds.

Spoiler:

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

Wait, what?
xD

The thread should've stopped at Peters post.

idd but thats cause we all love our sw vs sh or mara vs wl or choppa vs slayer threads isnt it?

[Tesq]

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

Wait, what?
xD

The thread should've stopped at Peters post.

"firce might " tactic in wb fights only, to profit from when things get serius/aggressive alpha strike....since sayer have a better aoe and undefeatable aoe it also goes up in potency esponentially.

[amputationsaw]

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

Wait, what?
xD

The thread should've stopped at Peters post.

"firce might " tactic in wb fights only, to profit from when things get serius/aggressive alpha strike....since sayer have a better aoe and undefeatable aoe it also goes up in potency esponentially.

I remember using fierce might on live but never heard of any player running it here. If you got a point left you could spend it for this tac

[Tesq]

Wait, what?
xD

The thread should've stopped at Peters post.

"firce might " tactic in wb fights only, to profit from when things get serius/aggressive alpha strike....since sayer have a better aoe and undefeatable aoe it also goes up in potency esponentially.

I remember using fierce might on live but never heard of any player running it here. If you got a point left you could spend it for this tac

point left? as aoe slayer you have no critical choice involved in build is all traightforward RoR.builders - Slayer
you can even decide between 3 pt more in aoe dmg or get st heal debuff for additiona shenaningans....lol the scenario and rvr build are the same with 1 tactic difference and at rr 70 you dont even have to respec you just have a mono build for both.

out AA tactic , in crit tactic

[Lileldys]

Slayer is the best DPS for pure DPS output. RoR.builders - Slayer

Choppa is behind the Slayer DPS, ID pushes the Slayers DPS much higher, but Choppa provides some intresting utility, 35% AA haste, 5s Reduced CDs (Chop Fasta) and Get to the Choppa in its current state is great. RoR.builders - Choppa

The builds I've linked need High Renown, but you can drop the CD Decrease Tactic and rock those builds at 40/40 easy.

These classes do need some good players, and good tanks + heals to maximize their full potential though. When I've been playing my Choppa with my group, it's always consistently in the top kills in zone, and its only renown 30