Choopa vs Slayer

[Aebel]

Ive heard it said that Slayer is by far the better class, but ive also heard it said that the Choppa just has a different playstyle. I take that as meaning they have more utility and less raw damage. Honestly I hate Slayer gear, but Id hate to make a Choppa and then hit a point where the Slayer would have been the better choice in every department. I do like classes with utility, so would what the Choppa can bring to the table in that regards be worth it for me or should I just make a Slayer?

[peterthepan3]

Choppa has an amazing AoE pull for WB purposes, deals less AOE damage and ST sustained than the Slayer - but has higher crit potential, and has an (arguably) better 2h spec with access to outgoing and incoming HD. Choppa and Slayer both bring AoE snare potential, and Choppa also brings access to an AA haste increase for group, as well as 5 seconds cooldown reduction (Slayer doesn't have those abilities).

[catholicism198]

Just looks.

[Grock]

I haven't played Choppa besides T1, so take my opinion with a grain of salt (not saltyness! )

Slayer is very straightforward, pure damage dealing with Inevitable Doom, while ignoring parry/block via Rampage, the only real utility we have compared to Choppa is Shatter Limbs and group AP cost buff.
Choppa however brings more than damage - pull, group cd buff, group AA haste buff, and potent debuffs in the 2h middle tree build, while Slayer's middle tree is meh.

Slayer is very painful for melee classes because they can ignore parry/block with Rampage.
They also have good racial tactics, both very strong for solo play: one that reduces KD/Stagger duration by half, and another one that adds extra layer of armor.

Slayer is just tiny ball of hate, while Choppa actually brings some strategy to it.
I certainly wouldn't say Slayer is better at everything. Just at the DPS.

[Kabuterimonga]

Choppa requires more skill than Slayer

[Tesq]

Slayer beat choppa just becaise rampage is the best dmg multipler in the whole game, aoe pull is crap and ista interruptable if any have a bit of brain.

Slayer also came with the best all purposee cc in game out of immunity (as squig) cd increase and is indirect more tankier than choppa thx to any IB.

AA is better on slayer since is a tactic and is active 100% of time.

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

So basically compare mara and slayer instead.

Choppa, need more love in form.of consistency and less ork-ish rng

[Aebel]

Slayer beat choppa just becaise rampage is the best dmg multipler in the whole game, aoe pull is crap and ista interruptable if any have a bit of brain.

Slayer also came with the best all purposee cc in game out of immunity (as squig) cd increase and is indirect more tankier than choppa thx to any IB.

AA is better on slayer since is a tactic and is active 100% of time.

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

So basically compare mara and slayer instead.

Choppa, need more love in form.of consistency and less ork-ish rng

Mara is capable of keeping up with a Slayer? I figured Mara dps would be lower because they have solid utility

[Reesh]

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

Wait, what?
xD

The thread should've stopped at Peters post.

[TenTonHammer]

Choppa has an amazing AoE pull for WB purposes, deals less AOE damage and ST sustained than the Slayer - but has higher crit potential, and has an (arguably) better 2h spec with access to outgoing and incoming HD. Choppa and Slayer both bring AoE snare potential, and Choppa also brings access to an AA haste increase for group, as well as 5 seconds cooldown reduction (Slayer doesn't have those abilities).

No its still a miserable aoe pull that magus still does better, and no wb needs chop fasta when bo can it out sooner without a ridiculous 2m cd

[TenTonHammer]

Slayer beat choppa just becaise rampage is the best dmg multipler in the whole game, aoe pull is crap and ista interruptable if any have a bit of brain.

Slayer also came with the best all purposee cc in game out of immunity (as squig) cd increase and is indirect more tankier than choppa thx to any IB.

AA is better on slayer since is a tactic and is active 100% of time.

For crit increase and aoe it have a better crit tactic than choppa.

So basically compare mara and slayer instead.

Choppa, need more love in form.of consistency and less ork-ish rng

Mara is capable of keeping up with a Slayer? I figured Mara dps would be lower because they have solid utility

Feeding on fear and 50% crit increase tactic

Mara can't keep up with slayer when their running red but otherwise their dos.isnt all that far apart since Mara can debuff armor