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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#21 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:01 pm

Hargrim wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:01 pm
Rydiak wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:53 pm Saphery-Avelorn is complaining that the Lords are virtually invincible now with a single BO held by the opposition. 80% AAO and it isn't enough to down a Lord.

Nobody at the keep, so...
When they were.... :P

Destro has given up fighting at the keep, and is just murder balling around the zone now.
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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#22 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:02 pm

Resets: yes we had some but if you say that killing a lord while holding all bos should be a matter of about 12 mins (which should translate to be able to hurt it around a 8% every minute), resets were not the culprit here. Furthermore, now the lord is able to stomp players in the courtyard well outside the keep; I remember players pulling it to the balcony but never saw something like this. I was playing a lvl 37 chosen so i had the mob targeted all the time; raze was hitting it for about 300 every shot.

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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#23 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:55 am

Okay, Order made it into the Destro keep finally in Saphery....and it became immediately aware that Keep Lords are effectively invincible (healing for more than they can possibly be damaged for, regardless of what their total HP is). Essentially to take down a Keep Lord you need to hold all four BOs and make sure not a single one even momentarily flips to the opposing side. If more than one BO flips even momentarily it is almost surely a full-heal on the Lord. A 5-star Keep is likely the easier method for flipping a zone at the moment, especially if your side is already protecting the BOs.
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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#24 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:11 am

Will people holding bo's gain same contribution as people fighting lord? I would assume the defensive warbands on the bottom killing the opposing side would get the most, but what about bo guards who are holding it for the siegers?
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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#25 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:47 am

We had a WB or two trying to keep the BOs clear, but even a single BO flipping to the opposing side for just a moment appeared to be sufficient to drastically slow down progress on the Lord. It is a thankless job protecting BOs. :P
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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#26 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:16 am

Lord is healing 3% of health if opposition got 1 BO, 5% with 2 and 6% with 3, every minute. If you have 1 warband hitting lord 1 BO can be outDPSed by players without much issue. More BOs are problematic, as it should be. You are supposed to care about BOs, not DPS down the lord while you are inside and forget about world outside the walls. Try to adapt.
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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#27 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:44 am

MoaningMarv wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:11 am Will people holding bo's gain same contribution as people fighting lord? I would assume the defensive warbands on the bottom killing the opposing side would get the most, but what about bo guards who are holding it for the siegers?
You don't have to sit at BO.
neutral BO is not healing Lord.
roam or use flags as trap.
search and kill enemy, reduce their morale so they sit at WC whining.

Attackers don't need BO guard.
they need patrols.
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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#28 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:34 am

I am sure the Dev team will look at the number of actual Lord Kills, Zone Flips and adjust as needed if this is not working as intended.

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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#29 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:44 am

Hargrim wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:16 am Lord is healing 3% of health if opposition got 1 BO, 5% with 2 and 6% with 3, every minute. If you have 1 warband hitting lord 1 BO can be outDPSed by players without much issue. More BOs are problematic, as it should be. You are supposed to care about BOs, not DPS down the lord while you are inside and forget about world outside the walls. Try to adapt.
Warning: Anecdotal Evidence incoming

Tonight during Avelorn/Saphery, we had all the BOs and were on Destros keep lord. Destro zergrushed one BO, then sat on it. With one full WB hitting the lord and about half a WB outside in the actual lake (very low pop hours), the lord healed himself to 100% within short order. Like, within a few minutes. With ONE BO in Destros control.

Order typically has worse gear than Destro for a lot of reasons I won't get into here, but it seems absolutely unfeasible to outpace the Lords healing at this time, even if you had a warband of top geared players. Caring about BOs is one thing, but needing to outnumber the enemy by at least 5 to 1 to even chance the Lord is another. In the last few days, very few attempts on Lords have even been made, and the vast majority of those that were failed. I've seen more 5 star keep locks in the last week or so than I have for the entire rest of the duration that I've played on this server.

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Re: Patch Notes 28/04/2018

Post#30 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:58 am

1. you didn't consider population issue.
2. 3% of health regen every minute... that means Lord is unkillable. WB could decrease lord's hp 1~2% for minute, so 3% regen? ... endless story...
3. here are some suggestions.
[situation] when order attacks destro Lord.
(0) all neutral BOs = nothing changed
(1) order got 1 BO, destro got 1 BO = nothing changed
(2) order got 2 BOs, destro got 2 BOs = nothing changed
(3) order got 1 BO, destro got 2 BOs (or order 0 BO, destro 1 BO) = lord's dmg increased 5%
(4) order got 0 BO, destro got 2 BOs (or order 1 BO, destro 3 BOs) = lord's dmg increased 10%
(5) order got 1 BO, destro got 0 BO (or oder 2BOs, destro 1 BO) = lord's dmg decreased 5%
(6) order got 2 BOs, destro got 0 BO (or oder 3BOs, destro 1 BO) = lord's dmg decreased 10%
(7) order got 3 BOs, destro got 0 BO = lord's dmg decreased 15%
(8) order got 4 BOs = lord's dmg decreased 20%
(9) order got 0 BO, destro got 3 BOs = lord's hp regen 2% every minute (lord got already + dmg increased 10%)
(10) destro got 4 BOs = lord's hp regen 3% every minute (lord got already + dmg increased 10%)

* if lord's dmg is 4000, max will be 4400dmg and min will be 3200dmg.

sorry for bad english...

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